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diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240114.txt b/meeting-logs/20240114.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..ad3dc7d --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240114.txt @@ -0,0 +1,160 @@ +<@ulm> meeting time [20:00] +<@ulm> !proj council +<willikins> (council@gentoo.org) ajak, dilfridge, mattst88, mgorny, sam, soap, + ulm +<@sam_> \o +* soap here +<@ulm> agenda: https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-project&m=170474770913416&w=2 +* mattst88 here +* mgorny here +<@ulm> 1. roll call +* sam_ here +* ajak here +* ulm here +<+Arsen> here (in place of dilfridge) +<@ulm> ok, all here [20:01] +<@ulm> 2. Foundation dissolution status update +<@ulm> no news, I fear +<@ulm> or has somebody reached out to other distros? +<@sam_> I reached out to adelie but I need to speak to someone else [20:02] +<@sam_> (the person I spoke to passed me onto someone else, and I need to + follow that up) +<@ulm> k +<@ulm> thanks +<@ulm> so hopefully some update next month +<@ulm> anyone else wants to speak up? [20:03] +<@ulm> 3. Refresh Hetzner servers +<@ulm> https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-project&m=170415728917799&w=2 +<@ulm> robbat2: are you here? +<@ulm> IIUC it's additional cost of 4 euros per month plus 39 euros one-time + charge [20:04] +<@ulm> so looks like a no-brainer? [20:05] +<@ulm> any comments? +<@mattst88> seems good to me [20:06] +<@mgorny> lgtm +<+Arsen> dilf has mentioned that he'd like it to stay in europe, and AX102 + seems to match his description +<@sam_> yeah, I hadn't clocked before that oystercatcher was already at + Hetzner +<@sam_> it sounds good to me +<@ajak> i don't hate the idea of adding drives to OSL but i don't feel super + strongly +<@sam_> that's the 2nd bit i think ajak +<@sam_> rather than the refresh +<+Arsen> right, think so too +<@ajak> oh sorry +<+Arsen> the refresh is new metal for the binhost, yes? +<@ajak> yes +<@ulm> so, let's vote [20:07] +<@ulm> motion: approve infra's request to refresh the Hetzner servers +* mattst88 yes +* mgorny yes +* Arsen yes +* sam_ yes +* ajak yes +* soap yes +* ulm yes +<@ulm> unanimous with 7 yes votes +<@ulm> thanks +<@ulm> 4. Hardware for online historical distfile archive +<@ulm> same mail message as above, plus bug 834712 [20:08] +<willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/834712 ""Old" or "historical" Gentoo + distfiles mirror"; Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; CONF; + badatcomputerslongytemail:infra-bugs +<@sam_> first I'd just want to say I think fixing the bug is pretty important +<@sam_> especially for stuff like our own patchsets +<@sam_> preserving our history matters but also helping users upgrade old + systems, and also verifying provenance +<@sam_> so i'm glad we're looking at it +<+arthurzam> (just noting that both links brought up in the mail are "out of + stock", so you might need to approve price range and not precise + one) +<@sam_> wrt the ML discussion: it's not in robbat2's proposal, but I wouldn't + want us to do amazon as some suggested [20:09] +<@sam_> nixos have got themselves into *very* deep financial issues by leaning + heavily on AWS +<@sam_> + https://discourse.nixos.org/t/the-nixos-foundations-call-to-action-s3-costs-require-community-support/28672 + [20:10] +<@sam_> + https://discourse.nixos.org/t/s3-update-and-recap-of-community-call/28942 +<@sam_> https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-s3-short-term-resolution/29413 +<@mgorny> yes, we really don't want to use amazon for anything +<@mgorny> if only because the guy's total asshole +<@mgorny> and because they never replied to us wrt open source credits +* ajak nods [20:11] +<@soap> agreed +<@ulm> robbat2's first preference was to buy some physical drives +<@sam_> (they're literally forking out $10k/mo) +<@sam_> yeah, I think that's my preference too +<@mgorny> yep [20:12] +<+Arsen> dilfridge mentioned that the 'extra new machine for the archive + server is also good' +<@mgorny> my only concern is copyright +<@mgorny> i'm worried that at least some of the historical distfiles haven't + been restricted properly +<+Arsen> that is quite possible +<@ulm> yeah, we sort that out as we go +<@mgorny> also i wonder if we should try contacting archive.org +<@mgorny> i mean, archiving software is one of the things they do [20:13] +<@sam_> Eli isn't around at the moment (sourcehut is being ddos'd) but IIRC + he'd mentioned before that archive.org handles something like the Arch + distfiles set +<@sam_> would be worth asking about that as well (although not a blocker) +<@ulm> mgorny: we'll only put files there that we had mirrored at some point + in the past, right? +<+Arsen> seems reasonable +<@ajak> yeah good idea but i think we should maintain our own primary + repository and maybe get them to mirror it or something +<@ajak> (since presumably our mirrors won't) [20:14] +<@mattst88> yeah, I suggest we just buy some disks first and get the project + moving [20:15] +<@ulm> motion: approve infra's request to buy physical disk drives for an + online historical distfile archive +* sam_ yes [20:16] +* ajak yes +* Arsen yes +* mattst88 yes +* mgorny yes +* soap yes +* ulm yes +<@ulm> unanimous with 7 yes votes +<@ulm> 5. Open bugs with Council participation +<@ulm> I see only bug 920711 at this time [20:17] +<willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/920711 "Removal of legacy distfile + mirror layout breaks ebuilds and eclasses which use + mirror://gentoo"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; CONF; + eschwartz93:council +<@mgorny> i don't think this is really a council issue +<@sam_> I don't think we want to undo anything with the migration there, it's + more that we should be aware of it given it happened because of our + decision +<@sam_> we just need to get on with killing mirror://gentoo finally +<@mgorny> we should 1) not use mirror://gentoo for new stuff +<@ulm> +1 +<@mgorny> 2) for old stuff, we can update it to use mirror://gentoo/XX/... +<@ulm> but see my comment #4 [20:18] +<@sam_> yeah, I was just about to cite that +<@mgorny> but we really need infra to finally set up proper distfile hosting +<@ulm> anyway, let's reassign that bug (to whom?) +<@sam_> I guess it's a qa thing +<@sam_> turn it into a tracker [20:19] +<@ulm> I'd have reassigned to mgorny, but qa wfm :) +<@mgorny> mgorny = qa +* mgorny hides +<@ulm> anyway, let's move on [20:20] +<@ulm> 6. open floor +<@ulm> nothing? [20:21] +<@mattst88> doesn't look like it :) +<@ulm> meeting is closed then. thanks, everybody [20:22] +<@ajak> thanks! +<@mgorny> thanks +<@mattst88> thanks :) +*** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council: + "246th meeting: 2024-02-11 19:00 UTC | + https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20240211T19 | + https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council | + https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/decisions.pdf" +<+Arsen> o/ thanks +<@sam_> thank you! +<@soap> thanks! diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240114.txt.asc b/meeting-logs/20240114.txt.asc new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a13807b --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240114.txt.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEZlHkP3TnuTbxrN0HwwkGhRxhwnMFAmXJHnsACgkQwwkGhRxh +wnNYnAgAh3EBtKsDipHxATYt66jODtNy9Q2TMbRUeEVQR6XUBgpsyR/C0RVGkGPH +pz5aht299YbzrC0SiB4AncnfdgA+IPayL7a+0cm+su9Jog+oK5VEU/7/CjSLO7YR +rvBNfwb0mvkBqOiUePmOH0Fi/cgdWQN7gd2xvCM6WdSSBYEyCqVM2Ja2KCKf2Kwk +MK7IyvsCTXsC4UYSXbw99dRH6xklTDQMtCfe06zHpsJXL28tZRuGzK0jjwU1QzIz +lw1U5tl/nmSMhKBL2kv+rRAwoz+qBwkpl1698Hln+MXdtgRHPAtmQDYE8uKOhMmd +McWT6M5pg89n7WHgWWoFTuN1GM3KkA== +=r/iE +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240211.txt b/meeting-logs/20240211.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..d1ce424 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240211.txt @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<@ulm> !proj council [20:00] +<willikins> (council@gentoo.org) ajak, dilfridge, mattst88, mgorny, sam, soap, + ulm +<@ulm> meeting time +<@sam_> wee +<@ulm> agenda: https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-project&m=170759379812682&w=2 +<@ulm> 1. roll call +* arthurzam here (proxy for mattst88) +* dilfridge|mobile here +* mgorny here +* sam_ here +* soap here +* ajak here [20:01] +* ulm here +<@ulm> perfect +<@ulm> 2. Foundation dissolution status update +<@ulm> no news I fear +<@dilfridge|mobile> Yes +<@ulm> dilfridge and I shall prepare a letter to SPI for the next meeting + [20:02] +<@ulm> dilfridge|mobile: do you want to add anything? +<@sam_> only update from me is that I spoke to zv from Adelie after I was + recommended reaching out but he's secretary (or some other role) there + and didn't have much to say in terms of adelie's experience (not + negatively, just wasn't really seemingly interested in talking about + it, which is fine) +*** TomJBE (~tb@gentoo/developer/tomjbe) has joined channel #gentoo-council +*** ChanServ (ChanServ@services.libera.chat) has changed mode for + #gentoo-council to +v TomJBE +<@mgorny> can we handle the letter (if vote is required) via a bug, to avoid + further delays? +<@dilfridge|mobile> Nothing to add from me [20:03] +<@dilfridge|mobile> and in my opinion we can +<@ulm> or we could have an extra meeting, maybe joint council and trustees +<@ulm> but no objection to bug +<@dilfridge|mobile> since this is for becoming assoicated project [20:04] +<@dilfridge|mobile> not (yet) transfer of funds +<@ulm> anything else for this item? +<@ulm> if not, let's move on [20:05] +<@ulm> 3. open bugs with council participation +<@sam_> +1 on mgorny's suggestion +<@ulm> there are none :) +<@dilfridge|mobile> Wow. +<@ulm> 4. open floor +<@ulm> anything? +<+NeddySeagoon> Is that a record? +<@ulm> probably :) +<@dilfridge|mobile> First call for testing 23.0 profiles / stages sometime in + the next days [20:06] +<@dilfridge|mobile> Only ppc, ppc64, sparc, s390, ricv, x87 +<@ulm> x87? [20:07] +<+NeddySeagoon> arm64 works +<@dilfridge|mobile> Tzpo +<@dilfridge|mobile> Neddy: pssst +<@ulm> anything else for open floor? +<@sam_> nothing from me +* ulm bangs the gavel [20:08] +<@ulm> meeting closed +<@sam_> thank you and wow, must be a record +<@mgorny> thanks +<+arthurzam> that was a great proxying from me :) +<@ajak> thanks! +<+arthurzam> thanks +*** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council: + "247th meeting: 2024-03-10 19:00 UTC | + https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20240310T19 | + https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council | + https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/decisions.pdf" diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240211.txt.asc b/meeting-logs/20240211.txt.asc new file mode 100644 index 0000000..30905c5 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240211.txt.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEZlHkP3TnuTbxrN0HwwkGhRxhwnMFAmXJHn0ACgkQwwkGhRxh +wnMd6ggAwTMv7OxadKkqhs95aVUfcOSjNoJgfXb4VbvTtzfyGGH2nyj9a54/H+ff +AgsAwU/KDsIRcaL3UIAJvBvmtiiCN6FrSL8TRnySj7Ip9wHtVc/Raj8aDwYJUGQK +b6F/mgIObKGI8v87fyY8B6rv678dLpLAn2rCefDRhawQuen3jM7aSLPAd0Em/Xl7 +QHqc/HEebLl3alBlx84XvAp57AbmmWoEcwXfPwe5AGG1BmQ2JvwmRRTJAtBUSBGw +r+ZdcBN32DJsibhAFGrgV8roZy+CIHQjHVBRdF+DQjPV8Htuz+5yWc1k8NvoQh9a +IZVvWp9YjnkXoOLgmNPpt+r+tFHqsw== +=EV+G +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |