<@ulm> meeting time [21:00] <@ulm> agenda: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/message/1fc299e7662ee2e30cfb1813c13cd7ca <@ulm> !proj council <+willikins> (council@gentoo.org) dilfridge, gyakovlev, mattst88, slyfox, ulm, whissi, williamh <@ulm> roll call * slyfox here * gyakovlev here * Whissi here * WilliamH here <@ulm> dilfridge? mattst88? [21:02] * dilfridge here <@mattst88> hello! [21:03] * ulm here <@slyfox> \o/ [21:04] <@mattst88> sorry, cat took over my lap :) <@ulm> so, let's start <@slyfox> pic or didn't happen :) <@ulm> Open bugs with Council participation <@ulm> bug 662982 <+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/662982 "[TRACKER] New default locations for the Gentoo repository, distfiles, and binary packages"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF; zmedico:dev-portage <@ulm> that's still waiting for its blocker bug 574752 <+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/574752 "Rename portage-YYYYMMDD.tar* snapshots with gentoo-YYYYMMDD.tar*"; Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; IN_P; mgorny:infra-bugs <@ulm> which is stalled because of the topdir renaming from "portage" to "gentoo-YYYYMMDD" [21:05] <@Whissi> The files are on mirror... will ping portage team what is required to do the switch. <@ulm> I wonder what would be the issue with naming it gentoo? [21:06] <@dilfridge> we could just rename ourselves to "portage linux", that might go faster <@mattst88> lol <@WilliamH> ulm: I also have wondered why they need the date in the directory name. <@ulm> dilfridge: the problem is that the diffs explode if the topdir name changes between snapshots <@WilliamH> ulm: correct. [21:07] <@dilfridge> right <@WilliamH> so the dir name should be constant <@ulm> my simple minded solution would be _not_ to rename it :) <@ulm> anyone wants to bring forward a motion? :) [21:08] <@Whissi> No, we already half-way + one step <@Whissi> We will get to the finish! <@WilliamH> I motion that the directory name in the snapshots be "gentoo" without the date. <@dilfridge> finnish? <@dilfridge> WilliamH++ <@ulm> please vote on WilliamH's motion [21:09] * dilfridge yes <@Whissi> No. No new vote. * WilliamH yes <@Whissi> Why do you want to change anything? Can you explain that first? <@ulm> Whissi: the top-level dir used to be named "portage" without a date extension <@WilliamH> Whissi: it has been explained. having the date in the directory name explodes the diff <@Whissi> We do --strip-components for that... <@ulm> Whissi: for creating the diff? [21:10] <@Whissi> I don't know what you are suddenly talking about. iirc hasn't robbat2 and zmedico mitigated that issue already? <@WilliamH> There was no reason given for changing the name of the top level directory. <@Whissi> I am still at gentoo-YYYYMMDD.tar* <@Whissi> And the last progress was that this file is now available <@ulm> ok, maybe it's wise to table this until next month and get more information [21:11] <@Whissi> So at one point we will just switch and no longer provide old tarball <@WilliamH> We keep tabling this. <@WilliamH> Why can't we just get it done? <@ulm> voting seems a little too knee-jerk right now <@Whissi> Maybe because nobody really knows the exact status. <@WilliamH> If we have to revert back we should to get it done since this is such a blocker. [21:12] <@ulm> but we should ask infra and/or the portage team why they need a date extension now <@WilliamH> ulm: ++ <@Whissi> I can volunteer to get bug updated with current status and what's blocking. <@slyfox> sounds good! <@ulm> Whissi: please do, thanks [21:13] <@ulm> so, voting is aborted <@WilliamH> Ok fwm. <@ulm> anyone else wants to comment on this? <@WilliamH> There was no need before for the date in the dir name so I agree that needs to be explained. <@ulm> let's move on [21:14] <@ulm> but 688876 <@ulm> bug 688876 <+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/688876 "Comrel webpage does not document expectations of privacy"; Community Relations, Developer Relations; CONF; rich0:comrel <@WilliamH> I guess we are just monitoring that <@ulm> we're only in cc, I don't see anything actionable for council <@slyfox> Worth asking the update in the bug. <@ulm> slyfox: can you do please? <@slyfox> Will do [21:15] <@ulm> k <@ulm> bug 729062 <+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; IN_P; jstein:council <@mattst88> yeah, seems reasonable to ask ComRel to respond <@Whissi> Discussion not yet finished. No motion called yet. <@WilliamH> I don't think that's actionable either. <@ulm> yeah, let's wait for the result of the discussion [21:16] <@ulm> or for its dying down :/ <@ulm> bug 736760 <+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/736760 "Application to Software Freedom Conservancy"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; mgorny:trustees <@ulm> nothing actionable there either atm <@WilliamH> Right. <@gyakovlev> it's in progress <@gyakovlev> but yeah <@ulm> so [21:18] <@ulm> opemn floor <@ulm> *open <@ulm> anyone? <@mattst88> just as an aside: I've finished up my personal stuff that was sucking my time as of Friday, so I'll get the meeting minutes for the two months I chaired out today [21:19] <@slyfox> woohooo! <@ulm> good :) <@ulm> september is missing too, I guess I'll do it together with this one [21:20] <@gyakovlev> and I almost got my log out of drives from dead machine. raid card arrives today, which will help me get data out. <@ulm> so, looks like there's nothing else on open floor [21:21] <@ulm> meeting is closed then <@dilfridge> \o/ <@Whissi> \o/ <@Whissi> Thank you for chairing! <@slyfox> Thanks all! * gyakovlev goes to sleep *** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council: "206th meeting: 2020-11-08 19:00 UTC | https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201108T19 | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council | https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/decisions.html" <@gyakovlev> thanks <@ulm> gyakovlev: you'll be chairing next month [21:22] <@gyakovlev> ack <@ulm> and everyone note end of daylight saving time * gyakovlev settiing up reminders