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diff --git a/2010/20100815_trustees_meeting_log.txt b/2010/20100815_trustees_meeting_log.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..2441bab --- /dev/null +++ b/2010/20100815_trustees_meeting_log.txt @@ -0,0 +1,283 @@ +20:00 * NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel to open the 15 Aug 2010 Gentoo Foundation Inc monthly trustees meeting +20:00 <@robbat2|na> hi all +20:00 <@NeddySeagoon> Roll Call +20:00 <@dabbott> here +20:00 <@robbat2|na> yo +20:00 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, quantumsummers_ ? +20:00 <@quantumsummers_> present +20:01 -!- quantumsummers_ is now known as quantumsummers +20:01 <@NeddySeagoon> We have a quorum. If someone on the right contenent could give josh a call ... +20:01 <@NeddySeagoon> We willstart anyway +20:01 <@NeddySeagoon> I'm logging +20:02 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 3 Old Business +20:02 <@NeddySeagoon> Open Invention Network sent us a reminder. +20:02 <@NeddySeagoon> From memory, that was with SFLC ... quantumsummers is that right ? +20:03 <@quantumsummers> fslc was working with OIN in some capacity +20:03 <@quantumsummers> *sflc that is +20:03 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, I thought we had them checking out the agreement ? +20:04 <@quantumsummers> That is correct. +20:04 <@quantumsummers> I was told that SFLC was developing some docs for OIN\ +20:04 <@NeddySeagoon> Is that on the agenda for your chat with SFLC next week ? +20:04 <@quantumsummers> Yes, that is one point, certainly +20:04 <@quantumsummers> I have it on our list to revisit OIN for November's meeting +20:04 <@quantumsummers> as well. +20:05 <@dabbott> second +20:05 <@robbat2|na> November? what happened to sept/oct? +20:06 <@quantumsummers> We decided at the meeting in June I believe +20:06 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2|na, we agreed to defer it while we go feedback from SFLC +20:06 <@quantumsummers> I am happy to bump that to sooner +20:06 <@NeddySeagoon> got* +20:06 <@robbat2|na> once you've got response from SFLC, assuming it's positive, we can probably vote at the next meeting? +20:07 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, lets wait until after your appointment with SFLC +20:07 <@quantumsummers> fine. as I recall, the main benefit was political, at least at that point in June +20:07 * NeddySeagoon recalls lawyers saying ... on the other hand ... +20:07 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: you seem more interested, care to expand on why? +20:08 <@robbat2|na> i've met Keith Bergelt on two occasions now +20:09 <@robbat2|na> i didn't specifically introduce myself as a Gentoo trustee, but the in-person discussions and presentations seem to be entirely positive +20:09 <@robbat2|na> we have little to lose or gain politically from joining in my opinion +20:09 <@robbat2|na> they have a lot to gain from us +20:09 <@NeddySeagoon> The agreement seems mostly harmless +20:09 <@quantumsummers> your impressions seem positive. +20:10 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: what do you see them gaining from gentoo? +20:10 <@quantumsummers> given that we have no patents +20:10 <@quantumsummers> albeit, I suspect portage to be a patentable invention. +20:11 <@quantumsummers> (not that I would advocate for such action) +20:11 <@NeddySeagoon> not now its published its not +20:11 <@robbat2|na> more large distributions to claim as members +20:11 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: ok. +20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> Ok ... lets move on. We cannot decide today +20:12 <@quantumsummers> ok, so on Tuesday I will discuss this. +20:12 <@quantumsummers> report to follow +20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, thanks +20:12 <@quantumsummers> np +20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> Gentoo Tango Icon Pacho Ramos +20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2|na, suggested a CC licence last meeting. I've read it and it looks good to me +20:13 <@quantumsummers> I like CC +20:13 <@NeddySeagoon> Has everyone else read it and can we vote ? +20:13 <@dabbott> yes +20:13 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: what CC derivative? +20:13 <@quantumsummers> if any +20:14 <@robbat2|na> CCPL-Sampling +20:14 <@quantumsummers> ok, very good +20:14 <@robbat2|na> CCPL-Sampling-Plus-1.0 in our tree +20:14 <@quantumsummers> Motion: Approve use of Gentoo Logo via license CCPL-Sampling-Plus-1.0 for Tango Icon project. +20:14 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, seconded +20:15 <@quantumsummers> thank you +20:15 <@robbat2|na> this is broader than just the tango icon +20:15 <@NeddySeagoon> vote please +20:15 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: shall I amend the motion to accomodate other projects/uses? +20:15 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2|na, please explain before we vote +20:15 <@robbat2|na> unless there are objections, yes, please amend +20:16 <@robbat2|na> the license applies to the logo in general +20:16 <@quantumsummers> Motion: Approve general use of Gentoo Logo via license CCPL-Sampling-Plus-1.0 +20:16 <@quantumsummers> oops. +20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> ok +20:16 <@quantumsummers> Motion: Approve general use of Gentoo "g" Logo via license CCPL-Sampling-Plus-1.0 +20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> seconded +20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> Vote pleasse +20:16 <@robbat2|na> aye +20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> Aye +20:16 <@quantumsummers> aye +20:16 <@dabbott> aye +20:17 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried +20:17 <@NeddySeagoon> we will come back to Updating Registration in NM if tsunam shows. Did anyone call him ? +20:18 <@quantumsummers> I can, if no one else has already +20:18 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, SFLC Update - we know thats next week +20:18 <@robbat2|na> i haven't +20:18 * quantumsummers goes to grab ze phone +20:18 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, Accountant Team Progress ... +20:19 <@quantumsummers> one moment, please +20:19 <@NeddySeagoon> sure +20:21 <@quantumsummers> Ok, Josh is at the doctor. +20:21 <@NeddySeagoon> That sounds bad, on a Sunday +20:21 <@NeddySeagoon> thanks for making the call quantumsummers +20:21 <@quantumsummers> yes, he sounded ok, but wasn't real chipper +20:22 <@quantumsummers> So, re: NM reg. I signed & overnighted the material awhile back, he has not signed & forwarded as of today. +20:22 <@quantumsummers> we have until November, fyi. +20:22 <@quantumsummers> but sooner the better +20:22 <@NeddySeagoon> OK, we can remind tsunam when hes better +20:22 <@quantumsummers> yes. +20:23 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, Accountant Team Progress ... +20:23 <@quantumsummers> ok, re: Accountants: I have assembled the dossiers for them, once I have a tad bit of info from sflc I will release it to the team +20:24 <@quantumsummers> I will say that I have already acccomplished some of what I had hoped out of them, however, there is plenty left +20:24 <@NeddySeagoon> hey its good its a team ... as in > 1 +20:24 <@quantumsummers> yes, that is true. +20:24 <@NeddySeagoon> I guess that covers 501(c)(3) registration status too ? +20:24 <@quantumsummers> reminds me, I will schedule a conf call with them as well +20:24 <@quantumsummers> more or less, yes. we are waiting on sflc, and a bit of budget work +20:25 <@quantumsummers> beyond that we are in good shape. +20:25 <@NeddySeagoon> good +20:25 <@NeddySeagoon> Knowledge Management TODO List ... +20:25 <@quantumsummers> its there. I have started playing with a mongodb instance for the email archive +20:25 <@NeddySeagoon> ok +20:26 <@quantumsummers> might be able to integrate that into the main system once its ironed out +20:26 <@NeddySeagoon> Markos Chandras (hwoarang) ... Request for developer certificate +20:26 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: I would like to know if you have any ideas on mysql text indexing (via sphinx, etc) at a later date +20:26 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, you were actioned with this in your absence last meeting :) +20:26 <@quantumsummers> that is done +20:27 <@quantumsummers> sent via snail mail && email pdf +20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, thanks +20:27 <@quantumsummers> np. +20:27 <@quantumsummers> note +20:27 <@dabbott> quantumsummers: ++ +20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott your turn +20:27 <@robbat2|na> quantumsummers, ok, later on, it's not hard +20:27 <@quantumsummers> I have considered setting something up with roll call to automate these +20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> Consultants Page Review +20:27 <@quantumsummers> just a sec please +20:28 <@quantumsummers> perhaps I should ask Josh, but I have accrued a bit of tab on behalf of gentoo recently. how shall I handle that? +20:28 <@quantumsummers> submit an invoice? +20:28 <@quantumsummers> its not pressing, however I would like my accounting to be in shape, etc, etc +20:29 <@robbat2|na> invoice the alias, and josh can send you a cheque or paypal probably +20:29 <@robbat2|na> that's how we've done it for infra before +20:29 <@quantumsummers> ok, sounds good +20:29 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, yes please, we are a business, like any other business. We need the paper trail to appease auditors +20:29 <@quantumsummers> that is all from me then. +20:29 <@dabbott> Is it tracked with a bug +20:29 <@quantumsummers> ok, will do +20:30 <@robbat2|na> quantumsummers, it's probably just incidental for paperwork and sending said paperwork to josh right? +20:30 <@robbat2|na> not an actual funding request ahead of time +20:30 <@quantumsummers> that and the print/mail of dev cert +20:30 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, petty cash +20:30 <@quantumsummers> robbat2|na: correct, these were incidental expenses +20:31 <@robbat2|na> yup, just invoice then, that's what we've done for infra. large stuff gets a funding request ahead of time +20:31 <@NeddySeagoon> We don't need a bug - invoice to the alias is fine +20:31 <@quantumsummers> ok, its <$50 total +20:32 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, your companies page looks good. Is thee only the one company to go on it ? +20:32 <@dabbott> If the Consultants page is OK I can add it to our links http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/#doc_chap5 +20:32 <@dabbott> yes so far liiking to add more +20:33 <@dabbott> *looking +20:33 <@robbat2|na> should we ask on -core if anybody else wants to be put on? +20:33 <@NeddySeagoon> Maybe put out a news item about it +20:33 <@quantumsummers> dabbott: I would like to place a link, if everyone thinks that is acceptable +20:33 <@quantumsummers> news item is a good idea +20:33 <@quantumsummers> -core as well +20:33 <@robbat2|na> +1 on putting the page up as well +20:34 <@dabbott> ok I will do both +20:34 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, fine by me as long as you declare your interest should it affect a vote +20:34 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: indeed +20:34 <@robbat2|na> i'll declare right now that i've done Gentoo consulting in the past +20:34 <@quantumsummers> as have I albeit small in comparison ;) +20:35 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, give it a week for resoponses to news/core then make the page live +20:35 <@dabbott> I will run by the requests as I get them by email +20:35 <@dabbott> for review +20:35 <@NeddySeagoon> I'll declare that I would, if the opportunity were to arise +20:36 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Larry Graphics Contest ... +20:36 <@dabbott> Starting on Aug 1 need more judges, have one a3li +20:37 <@dabbott> robbat2|na: is the artwork@g.o still working? +20:37 <@NeddySeagoon> Sounds like another news item then, or something on dev-announce +20:37 <@robbat2|na> dabbott, yes +20:38 <@dabbott> I added myself to the alias sent an email but did not recieve anything +20:39 <@dabbott> I will look around may have been spammed +20:39 <@robbat2|na> dabbott, when was that so I can look in the logs later? +20:39 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, anything else on judges ? +20:39 <@dabbott> about 2 weeks ago +20:39 <@dabbott> no thats it +20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 4 Bugs ... moved to t@g.o +20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 5 New Business +20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> Electronics Book Gentoo Logo Usage (Jordan Force) +20:41 <@quantumsummers> seems this would be covered by the earlier motion. +20:42 <@robbat2|na> one sec, it might not +20:42 <@NeddySeagoon> Hmm. I don't see the use of our logo in a book as commercial use. The book would be almost unchanged it it were removed +20:42 <@robbat2|na> the Sampling license is intended for derivitive works +20:42 <@quantumsummers> ah yes, I recall. +20:42 <@NeddySeagoon> so it should be considered non-commercial use +20:42 <@robbat2|na> the book is not a derivative work +20:42 <@quantumsummers> hmm, this may become tricky. +20:43 <@dabbott> do we need to add anything to the logo usage guideling page? +20:43 <@quantumsummers> dabbott: we will, most likely +20:43 <@robbat2|na> does anybody know how he wants to use the logo in the book? +20:43 <@quantumsummers> its in the email +20:43 <@NeddySeagoon> All we have is the email +20:43 <@robbat2|na> "I am writing a book about electronics. I am going to use the logo in the book, is this okay?" +20:44 <@robbat2|na> that's really brief +20:44 <@quantumsummers> ah, my mistake +20:44 <@quantumsummers> perhaps we ought ask him for a bit of info +20:44 <@dabbott> yes +20:44 <@NeddySeagoon> we need to get more detail +20:44 <@robbat2|na> dabbott, i'll update the logo usage page for the sampling license +20:44 <@NeddySeagoon> Will I respond ? +20:45 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2|na, thanks +20:45 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: please do, if you don't mind +20:45 <@dabbott> j19force93@gmail.com +20:45 <@NeddySeagoon> Oops - I have the original mail +20:46 <@NeddySeagoon> next - libbash license (GSOC) Petteri R?ty +20:46 <@NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, is in the channel +20:46 <+Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: It's not the license selection I wanted input on. +20:47 <@NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, sorry, thats my mistake +20:47 <@NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, please summarise +20:47 <+Betelgeuse> I proposed we assign copyright to the Foundation. +20:47 <@robbat2|na> I believe that Betelgeuse wants to know if we should hold the copyright for it, or if we leave it as the student +20:47 <@robbat2|na> sorry, was typing that at the same time +20:48 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2|na, thats one for the lawyers. International copyright is a mess +20:48 <+Betelgeuse> The student is from US. +20:49 <@NeddySeagoon> that makes it easier +20:49 <@quantumsummers> in that case, its rather wimple +20:49 <@quantumsummers> lol, simple +20:49 <@robbat2|na> Betelgeuse, has anybody else other than the student contributed code to it yet? +20:49 <@quantumsummers> I have an assignment doc we could use +20:49 <+Betelgeuse> robbat2|na: I have small snippets but don't consider enough to constitute a work. +20:50 <@robbat2|na> yes, I meant non-trivial contributions +20:50 <@NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse, anybody else ? +20:50 <+Betelgeuse> NeddySeagoon: no +20:50 <+Betelgeuse> Basically I anticipate request for a more liberal license but ideally would start with GPL-2 +20:50 <@robbat2|na> ok, then it's an easy case, since it's entirely inside the US. probably just use quantumsummers's existing doc +20:51 <@NeddySeagoon> What is the advantage to Gentoo of having copyright ? +20:51 <@robbat2|na> so assign copyright to Gentoo Foundation, and license with GPL-2/LGPL-2 +20:51 <@quantumsummers> should be fine, then. Betelgeuse I will email you for the necessary info. +20:52 <@robbat2|na> NeddySeagoon, specifically we can pursue copyright infringement of libbash without the student having to retain his own legal counsel +20:52 <+Betelgeuse> and relicense even if the student is not reachable +20:52 <@NeddySeagoon> I suppose it allows us to relicense if we want to too +20:53 <@NeddySeagoon> ok. lets use quantumsummers doc. quantumsummers can you post the document to the alias too please +20:53 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: yes, of course +20:53 <@NeddySeagoon> I have to catch up on US forms +20:54 <+Betelgeuse> quantumsummers: Does your doc quarantee we will always use an OSI approved license? +20:54 <@quantumsummers> Betelgeuse: not at present +20:54 <@quantumsummers> it can however, with just a slight mod +20:54 <@NeddySeagoon> Betelgeuse quantumsummers:fix the doc outside of the meeting please +20:54 <@quantumsummers> kk +20:55 <@NeddySeagoon> Developer Certificate (pdf) - Theo Chatzimichos +20:55 <@quantumsummers> I will create it. +20:55 <@NeddySeagoon> thanks +20:55 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 6 Membership Applications +20:55 <@NeddySeagoon> Alex Alexander - Gentoo Dev +20:56 <@NeddySeagoon> I vote aye +20:56 <@dabbott> yes +20:56 <@quantumsummers> aye +20:56 <@robbat2|na> aye +20:56 <@NeddySeagoon> Shall I write a wee ditty ? +20:56 <@dabbott> please do +20:56 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: yes please :) +20:56 <@NeddySeagoon> ok +20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 8 Date of Next Meeting - 19th Sep 2010 19:00 UTC +20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> That works for me +20:57 <@dabbott> fine here +20:57 <@quantumsummers> fine here +20:57 <@robbat2|na> +1 for me +20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> that was easy +20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 9 Any other business ... +20:58 <@robbat2|na> it's only summer that's busy :-) September gets slower +20:58 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, ? +20:58 <@robbat2|na> none from me +20:58 <@dabbott> Current bugs are in the topic if you want to review +20:58 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, lets try doing it on the list this month +20:58 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: nope. nothing beyond the convo with legal +20:59 <@NeddySeagoon> nothing here +20:59 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, AoB ? +20:59 <@dabbott> AoB ?? +20:59 <@robbat2|na> "Any other Business" +20:59 <@dabbott> lol +20:59 <@dabbott> no +21:00 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 10 Responsibilities +21:00 <@dabbott> I will do the motions +21:00 <@NeddySeagoon> I'll post the log and write the two emails +21:00 <@dabbott> I think just one ? +21:00 <@NeddySeagoon> wired and more info about logo useage +21:00 <@dabbott> ok 2 +21:01 <@quantumsummers> gentlemen, its been a pleasure. talk to you all very soon. Cheers. +21:01 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 11 Open Floor +21:01 <@NeddySeagoon> later quantumsummers +21:01 <@dabbott> ty quantumsummers +21:01 <@robbat2|na> bug 329509, it's CC'd for trustees, but I think we can just hand it over to the licenses team while the upstreams work it out +21:01 < willikins> robbat2|na: https://bugs.gentoo.org/329509 "dev-libs/shared-desktop-ontologies is a licensing mess"; Gentoo Linux, Ebuilds; NEW; luke-jr+gentoobugs@utopios.org:kde@g.o +21:02 * NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel to close the meeting |