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diff --git a/2016/meeting-20160327-log.txt b/2016/meeting-20160327-log.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..82b7fb3 --- /dev/null +++ b/2016/meeting-20160327-log.txt @@ -0,0 +1,179 @@ +Mar 27 14:53:46 * NeddySeagoon polishes the virtual gavel with Annie Sloan light wax +Mar 27 14:54:21 <robbat2> hmm, i think the power supply on my speakers is dying; the blue LED is totally fading and there's almost no sound coming out +Mar 27 14:55:42 <SwifT> your LEDs have sound? +Mar 27 14:55:58 <robbat2> from the speaker, not the LED +Mar 27 14:57:20 <robbat2> wonder if there is somewhere I can buy a new 12VAC supply today +Mar 27 14:57:58 <robbat2> or i should finally replace the units with something nicer +Mar 27 14:58:20 <robbat2> ~15 year old creative speakers that I was re-gifted +Mar 27 14:59:10 <dabbott> robbat2: I have the bose desktop https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/stereo_speakers/companion-2-series-iii-multimedia-speaker-system.html#v=companion2_black?srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=37-173665321-2&perfsourceid=MC113165&src=K22350 +Mar 27 14:59:20 <dabbott> you can find them on sale +Mar 27 14:59:55 <robbat2> these are the first generation creative gigaworks T20 +Mar 27 15:01:02 <robbat2> anyway, meeting time +Mar 27 15:01:12 <SwifT> yup +Mar 27 15:01:49 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open the March meeting of the Gentoo Foundation trustees. +Mar 27 15:01:58 <NeddySeagoon> Oops ... late +Mar 27 15:02:22 <NeddySeagoon> Roll Call SwifT robbat2 dabbott +Mar 27 15:02:26 <robbat2> present +Mar 27 15:02:27 <dabbott> present +Mar 27 15:02:30 <SwifT> present +Mar 27 15:02:34 <SwifT> present +Mar 27 15:02:45 <NeddySeagoon> We have a quorum ... lets start +Mar 27 15:02:50 <robbat2> doe he count twice for quorum? +Mar 27 15:02:58 <NeddySeagoon> Who is logging the meeting - dabbot, its always you +Mar 27 15:03:00 <dabbott> I am logging +Mar 27 15:03:28 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: We have 4 ... we only need 3 +Mar 27 15:03:43 <robbat2> yes I know, just joking ;-) +Mar 27 15:04:01 <NeddySeagoon> Activity Tracker ... +Mar 27 15:04:41 <robbat2> we need to finish the renewal of the logo trademark +Mar 27 15:04:45 <NeddySeagoon> IRS Return 990 Nov-2014 due Nov-2015 is that right ? +Mar 27 15:04:55 <robbat2> it's overdue, and I need to talk about it in old business +Mar 27 15:05:13 <dabbott> All I see is the Gentoo logo trademark +Mar 27 15:05:15 <NeddySeagoon> Everything else looks OK +Mar 27 15:05:46 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2 Your bit Treasurer handover status +Mar 27 15:06:22 <robbat2> so what i've been trying to do the last month, without much success, is finding a US tax accountant here in vancouver to handle our status +Mar 27 15:06:37 <robbat2> there's plenty that do personal returns, or large corporations +Mar 27 15:06:51 <robbat2> but the closest I got was a firm that wanted a min of $5k to do it +Mar 27 15:07:02 <NeddySeagoon> Matt never passed on the CPA details? +Mar 27 15:07:18 <robbat2> also ran into a problem that it needs to be filed by somebody with an SSN (which I logically don't have) +Mar 27 15:07:21 <robbat2> no, he never did +Mar 27 15:07:33 <robbat2> hence doing that part from scratch :-( +Mar 27 15:07:45 <NeddySeagoon> taht menas dabbott on Alex then +Mar 27 15:07:56 <NeddySeagoon> that means .. +Mar 27 15:08:01 <robbat2> dabbott: you mentioned you helped some org local to you with paypal problems, do you have a CPA contact as well? +Mar 27 15:08:34 <dabbott> I moved from there :( +Mar 27 15:08:50 <dabbott> I don't know anyone local +Mar 27 15:08:50 <robbat2> and I don't suppose that last CPA was very tech-savvy? +Mar 27 15:09:25 <dabbott> yea just a general tax person, it was simple +Mar 27 15:09:26 <NeddySeagoon> Should we ask Wayn Chew? +Mar 27 15:09:52 <NeddySeagoon> for a reccomendation, I mean +Mar 27 15:10:21 <robbat2> we could, but I'm open to all other avenues of finding a CPA as well +Mar 27 15:10:35 <dabbott> how about our community +Mar 27 15:10:54 <robbat2> a related hurdle is that some firms here wanted books in quickbook format only +Mar 27 15:11:35 <robbat2> post to -dev or -project looking for a CPA? +Mar 27 15:11:58 <dabbott> It can't hurt +Mar 27 15:12:03 <NeddySeagoon> how much time do we have? +Mar 27 15:12:40 <robbat2> our past extensions must have run out by now; either we need a US person to file another extension immediately, or submit our taxes +Mar 27 15:13:05 <dabbott> Can we file an extention ourselves +Mar 27 15:13:12 * NeddySeagoon looks at dabbott ... to file for anoter extension +Mar 27 15:13:18 <dabbott> I can do it if I know how +Mar 27 15:13:26 <robbat2> i'm uncertain on when it would have run out, because matthew didn't pass on CPA details +Mar 27 15:14:13 <robbat2> dabbott: look up form 8868 +Mar 27 15:14:29 <NeddySeagoon> Is there any point in calling Matt or do we need to wark on the basis that he will be of no further assistance? +Mar 27 15:15:09 <robbat2> i think he will not be of further assistance in the time available +Mar 27 15:15:44 <NeddySeagoon> Is it worth a phone call ? +Mar 27 15:15:46 <dabbott> robbat2: I see the form can you fill out the info you know and I can put it together and send it in +Mar 27 15:16:08 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: i've spoken to him multiple times to ask, and not gotten anything regarding the CPA +Mar 27 15:16:19 <dabbott> Most CPA's will be super busy till after April +Mar 27 15:17:04 <dabbott> At leat if we file something and maybe get lucky with a CPA that used Gentoo +Mar 27 15:17:14 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: Thats a 'no' then :( +Mar 27 15:17:41 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott: That would be really good +Mar 27 15:17:42 <robbat2> ok; action items from this: post a notice TODAY on -dev, -project, -nfp lists about wanting a CPA +Mar 27 15:17:53 <robbat2> 2. work with dabbott this afternoon to fill that form +Mar 27 15:18:12 <NeddySeagoon> Sounds good. +Mar 27 15:18:41 <robbat2> when we have a CPA, I also want to know how to request all of our old tax filings, since no prior treasurer seems to have kept those records +Mar 27 15:19:20 <robbat2> so last bit of old business I have is a non-status report on paypal +Mar 27 15:19:45 <robbat2> when I last spoke to them on the phone, they said the verification could take a month, and that passed this last week +Mar 27 15:19:54 <robbat2> it's still marked as in progress from their side +Mar 27 15:20:06 <NeddySeagoon> can we use the account in that period? +Mar 27 15:20:50 <robbat2> yes; we just don't want to trust it with large amounts; which is holding up two things: SFC donation & ARM64 purchase +Mar 27 15:21:33 <robbat2> i'm not going to stir the pot with paypal compliance department for the moment +Mar 27 15:21:46 <NeddySeagoon> Sounds fair +Mar 27 15:22:11 <dabbott> And the checks won't work, no signature on file +Mar 27 15:22:35 <NeddySeagoon> There is a lot of other stuff on. I suppose we don't have a current account we can use either ? +Mar 27 15:22:59 <robbat2> same signature issue +Mar 27 15:23:08 <robbat2> our money is safe, we just can't spend it +Mar 27 15:23:51 <NeddySeagoon> There must be a way to get the bank to accept a new signature without the help of an existing signatury? +Mar 27 15:24:33 <robbat2> we have the draft of a letter to send them, we should probably move forward on it +Mar 27 15:24:36 <dabbott> We should be able to use the NM filing for that +Mar 27 15:24:54 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: Agreed +Mar 27 15:25:19 <robbat2> i'll finish the draft when I talk to dabbott this afternoon, and circulate for signing by trustees +Mar 27 15:25:31 <robbat2> can everybody put a signature on something without having to print it and scan it back? +Mar 27 15:25:31 <NeddySeagoon> That works +Mar 27 15:25:31 <dabbott> sounds good +Mar 27 15:26:22 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: You mean a real signature on paper? I don't know how +Mar 27 15:26:46 <robbat2> as long as you have a high-res scan of just your signature, I can show you how to do it with gimp & pdftk +Mar 27 15:26:52 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: we would need to ciruulane the paper. +Mar 27 15:27:32 <NeddySeagoon> I thind I hawe a transparent scan of my sig. +Mar 27 15:27:48 <robbat2> anyway, we can do the digital version and hard copy as a followup to it +Mar 27 15:28:01 <NeddySeagoon> Ok +Mar 27 15:28:14 <robbat2> that's all from treasurer old business now +Mar 27 15:28:45 <NeddySeagoon> swift Trademark stuff. +Mar 27 15:29:07 <SwifT> I finally got around to making the slight adjustments as requested on our december meeting +Mar 27 15:29:08 <NeddySeagoon> Work has been 12 or 14 hour days I've not read it yet +Mar 27 15:29:35 <SwifT> no worries +Mar 27 15:29:49 <dabbott> Looks fine by me, thanks +Mar 27 15:29:50 <SwifT> there are no "major" changes, more better explanations of certain situations +Mar 27 15:29:51 <NeddySeagoon> I did see the email though +Mar 27 15:29:54 <SwifT> for instance, overlays and so +Mar 27 15:30:06 <SwifT> well, the mail sums it up so you don't need to reread ;-) +Mar 27 15:30:13 <NeddySeagoon> :) +Mar 27 15:30:33 <NeddySeagoon> Bugs Open Trustee Bugs +Mar 27 15:30:34 <SwifT> I'd like to put it on -nfp again (it's been a year) together with the remark that it will go live on a certain date (I am aiming for May 1st) +Mar 27 15:30:52 <dabbott> SwifT: sounds good +Mar 27 15:31:05 <SwifT> I'll see with our infra team on how to change it (current one -> keep somewhere archived, new one, etc.) +Mar 27 15:31:24 <SwifT> 'cause the current one (and many links to it) are on the static website which I don't have access to +Mar 27 15:31:35 <robbat2> i recommend archive.org +Mar 27 15:31:42 <robbat2> for old website stuff +Mar 27 15:31:51 <SwifT> that's also a possibility +Mar 27 15:32:00 <robbat2> beyond that I can show you how to put content in the new website +Mar 27 15:32:11 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT: I'm good with that. +Mar 27 15:32:23 <SwifT> I do have one question about the renewed trademark/guidelines though - should we put a paragraph in about time? like that we review and renew yearly? +Mar 27 15:32:37 <SwifT> or are these guidelines everlasting for those who see it? +Mar 27 15:33:33 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT: The guidelines are not rectactive ... we tend to review them from "time to time" rather that on a regular basisi +Mar 27 15:33:49 <robbat2> i think he means do our grants of usage expire +Mar 27 15:33:56 <NeddySeagoon> Mostly when a case comes up that they don't address :) +Mar 27 15:34:08 <SwifT> yes - currently I don't think they expire +Mar 27 15:34:20 <NeddySeagoon> They do not expire +Mar 27 15:34:50 <SwifT> we could add in a clause about licenses expiring or at least that we expect users to regularly review the license to see if it still applies? +Mar 27 15:34:59 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need to review bugs? +Mar 27 15:35:04 <SwifT> or do you rather not go that route? it's not like it changed a lot +Mar 27 15:35:21 <SwifT> (and given how long we're doing about it to change it... ;-) +Mar 27 15:35:36 <NeddySeagoon> lets leave it ... +Mar 27 15:35:40 <SwifT> ok +Mar 27 15:35:47 <SwifT> sorry for holding the agenda back - please do continue +Mar 27 15:35:56 <NeddySeagoon> bugs ... +Mar 27 15:36:45 <NeddySeagoon> Before spanky buys that arm64 box, make sure he understands we don't know when we can pay him back +Mar 27 15:38:33 <robbat2> yes, there have been some developments in the arm64 server world since then, so i think the exact item might change too +Mar 27 15:39:05 <NeddySeagoon> The 64 bit Raspberry Pi :) +Mar 27 15:39:49 <robbat2> http://linuxgizmos.com/two-96boards-sbc-debut-including-one-with-amds-arm-soc/ +Mar 27 15:40:07 <NeddySeagoon> Any more on bugs? Others look like they are blocked on banking +Mar 27 15:41:03 <NeddySeagoon> New Business ... +Mar 27 15:41:49 <NeddySeagoon> "Genfleetoo" (by email to the trustees) .... last I recall, he wants to use a logo that includes our G logo but squashed +Mar 27 15:42:49 <SwifT> we discussed that iirc, we don't want the logo's aspect ratio to be modified +Mar 27 15:42:51 <robbat2> i think he had a version after that just put another image layer on top w/ his brainmap stuff +Mar 27 15:43:29 <NeddySeagoon> Thats a no no on similarity grounds. I'm good with usisg our logo with an overlay though +Mar 27 15:44:02 <NeddySeagoon> OK, lets look into it before the next meeting +Mar 27 15:44:08 <robbat2> how is that not an overlay? (in the visual sense) +Mar 27 15:44:45 <NeddySeagoon> I'm OK with the overlay ... not the squashed G logo behind it +Mar 27 15:45:09 * rich0_ is now known as rich0 +Mar 27 15:45:43 <NeddySeagoon> Membership Applications ... Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> +Mar 27 15:45:52 <NeddySeagoon> Thats a yes frow me +Mar 27 15:45:56 <SwifT> aye +Mar 27 15:45:59 <robbat2> aye +Mar 27 15:46:00 <dabbott> yes +Mar 27 15:46:01 <NeddySeagoon> from ... even +Mar 27 15:46:28 <dabbott> I will email him and add him to the member list +Mar 27 15:46:36 <NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - 17 April 2016 19:00 UTC ... Three weeks time ... +Mar 27 15:46:43 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott: Thatnk you +Mar 27 15:46:48 <dabbott> fine here +Mar 27 15:47:01 <NeddySeagoon> Works for me too +Mar 27 15:47:19 <SwifT> ok +Mar 27 15:47:29 <robbat2> might have toddler issues that meeting, but every other weekend in april is busy +Mar 27 15:47:49 <robbat2> (getting toddler into swim lessons that end 18:30 UTC) +Mar 27 15:47:50 <NeddySeagoon> Toddlers are always issues :) +Mar 27 15:48:11 <robbat2> and the following week is her 2nd birthday +Mar 27 15:48:16 <NeddySeagoon> They swim natually too +Mar 27 15:48:46 <SwifT> I just have something small for the meeting if it's still time +Mar 27 15:48:51 <SwifT> we got an encrypted e-mail (not yoy NeddySeagoon I think you don't have a GPG key) about tomboy64's personal name (he doesn't want to share it with the project). I've confirmed on his recruitment bug that we received the information. +Mar 27 15:49:09 <NeddySeagoon> SwifT: I read it :) +Mar 27 15:49:14 <SwifT> ok +Mar 27 15:49:16 <dabbott> I checked it also :) +Mar 27 15:49:40 <robbat2> so I have one comment regarding it; and that's people now know it might not be his real name +Mar 27 15:50:04 <robbat2> can we handle such issues more carefully; leave the note on the bug, but don't mention it here +Mar 27 15:50:21 <SwifT> oh... yes, didn't think of that +Mar 27 15:50:28 <NeddySeagoon> There has been some chatter on the forums that the Charter and/or the Social Contract were mangled in the wikification process. I'll look into it +Mar 27 15:51:41 <NeddySeagoon> I can compare the Wiki and Guide XML versions +Mar 27 15:52:26 <NeddySeagoon> Responsibilities ... dabbott you offered. Thank you +Mar 27 15:52:44 <NeddySeagoon> Open Floor ... +Mar 27 15:53:42 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting +Mar 27 15:53:50 <NeddySeagoon> Thank you team |