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Jun 19 14:58:16 *	NeddySeagoon passes SwifTthe virtual gavel.
Jun 19 14:58:39 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: thank you for the offer to chair
Jun 19 14:58:44 <SwifT>	no proble
Jun 19 14:58:51 <SwifT>	I've always wanted to bang that toy
Jun 19 14:58:57 <SwifT>	(don't quote me out of context)
Jun 19 14:59:27 <Hello71>	SwifT: https://twitter.com/HallieCBC/status/740855091020857344. unintentional my ass
Jun 19 14:59:49 <NeddySeagoon>	heh
Jun 19 14:59:54 <SwifT>	hehe
Jun 19 15:00:01 *	antarus coughs
Jun 19 15:00:06 <SwifT>	ok
Jun 19 15:00:12 *	SwifT smashes the gavel on the table
Jun 19 15:00:15 <SwifT>	roll call
Jun 19 15:00:20 <antarus>	here
Jun 19 15:00:25 *	NeddySeagoon is here
Jun 19 15:00:30 *	SwifT is here too apparently
Jun 19 15:00:33 <dabbott>	over here o/
Jun 19 15:00:49 <SwifT>	ok, we have a quorum... robbat2 might or might not make it depending on reception
Jun 19 15:01:03 <SwifT>	who's taking notes?
Jun 19 15:01:10 Usage: ME <action>, sends the action to the current channel (actions are written in the 3rd person, like /me jumps)
Jun 19 15:01:24 *	dabbott log
Jun 19 15:01:30 <SwifT>	great, thanks for that
Jun 19 15:01:42 <SwifT>	let's go over the agenda - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Meetings/2016/06
Jun 19 15:01:57 <SwifT>	Topic: Old Business - Trustees - Activity Tracker
Jun 19 15:02:07 <SwifT>	https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Activity_Tracker
Jun 19 15:02:17 <SwifT>	we're close to the trustee election
Jun 19 15:02:27 <SwifT>	what do we need to do next?
Jun 19 15:02:54 <dabbott>	ok recording date is today
Jun 19 15:03:07 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: admit new members, update the ml and list of members
Jun 19 15:03:32 <dabbott>	next is the mail for nominations
Jun 19 15:03:48 <dabbott>	https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Elections
Jun 19 15:04:03 <dabbott>	we been trying to document there
Jun 19 15:04:08 <SwifT>	ok
Jun 19 15:04:25 <SwifT>	so we're at step 4 then?
Jun 19 15:04:32 <NeddySeagoon>	jmbsvicetto: is out partying be he needs the updated members list
Jun 19 15:04:38 <NeddySeagoon>	but*
Jun 19 15:05:07 <SwifT>	we should be able to give him the updated members list, with the added members of today's meeting
Jun 19 15:05:16 <dabbott>	latest list with todays new members https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Member_List
Jun 19 15:05:29 <SwifT>	you're a champ
Jun 19 15:05:53 <NeddySeagoon>	I'll fix +v here
Jun 19 15:06:07 <dabbott>	whaty are the dates for the nominations and elections?
Jun 19 15:06:14 <SwifT>	to send out the nomination mail, perhaps we could add in the template content of the mail to the Foundation:Elections page as well, for future reference
Jun 19 15:07:33 <SwifT>	I would use a generous month for nominations (say up to july 31st)?
Jun 19 15:07:44 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: 4 weeks each, results by AGM
Jun 19 15:07:59 <dabbott>	NeddySeagoon: ok thanks
Jun 19 15:08:13 <SwifT>	ah right, we want it to be finished by the AGM roughly
Jun 19 15:08:49 <SwifT>	dabbott: you need some help with sending out the mails/drafting them up?
Jun 19 15:09:11 <NeddySeagoon>	elections need a few days to prepare the ballot and declare the result
Jun 19 15:09:26 <dabbott>	here is the one from last year https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/3269dc737eb60765043839b3e4aded81
Jun 19 15:09:35 <NeddySeagoon>	if there is a vote ...
Jun 19 15:09:44 <antarus>	:)
Jun 19 15:10:03 <SwifT>	ok, we can reuse the content and update it to match the new dates
Jun 19 15:10:18 <dabbott>	who is up for election me and NeddySeagoon?
Jun 19 15:10:21 <SwifT>	and rotation-riterees
Jun 19 15:10:32 <antarus>	I thought I was up?
Jun 19 15:10:49 <NeddySeagoon>	I'm a rotation retiree
Jun 19 15:11:07 <SwifT>	antarus: no, you're with me, still have to hold on for an additional year afaik
Jun 19 15:11:45 <SwifT>	not sure if robbat2 is also part of it, as he substituted matt
Jun 19 15:11:49 <NeddySeagoon>	we can check with past results
Jun 19 15:11:52 <antarus>	ah
Jun 19 15:11:53 <SwifT>	indeed we can
Jun 19 15:11:54 <dabbott>	ok here is the email I sent out last year, I will update it with the new dates and run it by you all by email https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/c50fe91057664a3522adc1e36409d321
Jun 19 15:11:58 <antarus>	ok then
Jun 19 15:12:14 <SwifT>	let's finish the name list outside of this meeting, no need to hold it further up
Jun 19 15:12:18 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: thanks
Jun 19 15:12:18 <dabbott>	I am matts replacement
Jun 19 15:12:24 <SwifT>	ah ok
Jun 19 15:12:41 <SwifT>	anything else for the trustee election?
Jun 19 15:13:21 <SwifT>	if not, then next on the activity list is the AGM meeting. Do we need to already fix that date this month?
Jun 19 15:13:23 <NeddySeagoon>	I have in mind not to stand, as I emaied\
Jun 19 15:14:33 <dabbott>	AGM Aug 21 this year
Jun 19 15:14:36 <NeddySeagoon>	If there was an exit stratergy for me, I might stand.  What does the team thing will be best for the Foundation?
Jun 19 15:14:51 <dabbott>	You need to stay
Jun 19 15:15:13 <antarus>	I think it mostly depends on the number of nominees
Jun 19 15:15:16 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: I'd be more comfortable if you stay, but I can definitely understand if real life is telling you not to
Jun 19 15:15:42 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: you don't need to make up your mind right now, you can wait until the last day of the nomination period
Jun 19 15:15:43 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: yes.  Its the deadline for election resuts.  New trustees take their seats at the AGM
Jun 19 15:15:46 <antarus>	did we even hold an election last year, or did we have # of nominees == slots
Jun 19 15:16:04 <antarus>	I worry about that if you do not nominate, but as SwifT notes we can wait and see
Jun 19 15:16:12 <NeddySeagoon>	antarus: the latter
Jun 19 15:16:19 <antarus>	NeddySeagoon: i do not think you should take one for the team, as it were
Jun 19 15:16:27 <antarus>	its up to us to find people, not you
Jun 19 15:17:25 <SwifT>	dabbott: we can do the gentoo-dev-announce AGM meeting announcement in a few days then (not too soon, can't do it more than 60 days before the meeting apparently)
Jun 19 15:17:41 <SwifT>	ok, let's move on
Jun 19 15:17:49 <NeddySeagoon>	antarus: I would be good with a phased withdrawal if there was a plan to replace me at short notice.  Thats up to the remainin trustees
Jun 19 15:18:03 <SwifT>	I don't think anything else on the activity list needs our immediate attention
Jun 19 15:18:15 <SwifT>	unless someone disagrees, I'll move on to the next topic (in 10, 9,<...)
Jun 19 15:18:24 <antarus>	moving on is fine
Jun 19 15:18:36 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - Trustees - CPA Accountant Search
Jun 19 15:18:47 <SwifT>	with robbat2 not online, I think we need to skip this
Jun 19 15:18:48 <dabbott>	I talked to Bob Conti our accountant yesterday
Jun 19 15:18:53 <SwifT>	oh ok
Jun 19 15:19:00 <SwifT>	go on
Jun 19 15:19:28 <dabbott>	I am goint to sign some forms for our old irs records so we are moving forward
Jun 19 15:19:41 <dabbott>	he is going to do our taxes etc
Jun 19 15:20:05 <dabbott>	he is retired and doing it pro bono for now just not real fast
Jun 19 15:20:06 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: are we paying Bob for his services?
Jun 19 15:20:30 <NeddySeagoon>	ok
Jun 19 15:21:03 <dabbott>	he is currenty working on getting hid girlfrinds daughter over here from ussr so not alot of time but later he will do everything needed
Jun 19 15:21:48 <SwifT>	that's great news (that he's helping us out) and I hope he is able to help his GF and her daughter too
Jun 19 15:22:21 <dabbott>	he likes the whole open source project with world wide members so he wants to help out
Jun 19 15:22:48 <NeddySeagoon>	sounds good
Jun 19 15:22:57 <dabbott>	he said if later it gets to be too much he may sub some work out that we would need to pay for
Jun 19 15:23:13 <SwifT>	I reckon that will not be a problem
Jun 19 15:23:21 <NeddySeagoon>	that works too
Jun 19 15:23:27 <dabbott>	robbat2: has done and continues to do alot of the book work so that is a big ++
Jun 19 15:24:10 <SwifT>	good, let's keep the CPA aspect on our agenda, just not call it "Accountant Search" anymore for now
Jun 19 15:24:21 <dabbott>	I will let you know when he sends out the forms
Jun 19 15:24:29 <dabbott>	SwifT: ok sounds good
Jun 19 15:24:44 <robbat2|phone>	Signal!
Jun 19 15:24:46 <SwifT>	welcome back robbat2|phone 
Jun 19 15:24:46 <dabbott>	thats it :)
Jun 19 15:24:51 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: how are we covring his expenses?
Jun 19 15:25:08 <robbat2|phone>	I have no logs of what happened so far fyi
Jun 19 15:25:12 <dabbott>	pro bono unless he needs to sub out work
Jun 19 15:25:17 <robbat2|phone>	At least not on me
Jun 19 15:25:30 <robbat2|phone>	Talking about Bob?
Jun 19 15:25:35 <dabbott>	yes
Jun 19 15:25:48 <SwifT>	robbat2|phone: yes, we're on the CPA aspect (well close to finishing that topic)
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	robbat2: <dabbott> he is currenty working on getting hid girlfrinds daughter over here from ussr so not alot of time but later he will do everything needed
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<SwifT> that's great news (that he's helping us out) and I hope he is able to help his GF and her daughter too
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> he likes the whole open source project with world wide members so he wants to help out
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<NeddySeagoon> sounds good
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> he said if later it gets to be too much he may sub some work out that we would need to pay for
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<SwifT> I reckon that will not be a problem
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<NeddySeagoon> that works too
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> robbat2: has done and continues to do alot of the book work so that is a big ++
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<SwifT> good, let's keep the CPA aspect on our agenda, just not call it "Accountant Search" anymore for now
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> I will let you know when he sends out the forms
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> SwifT: ok sounds good
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<robbat2|phone> Signal!
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<SwifT> welcome back robbat2|phone 
Jun 19 15:26:04 <dabbott>	<dabbott> thats it :)
Jun 19 15:27:06 <SwifT>	if nothing else, we can move on to the next topic (in 5, 4, ...)
Jun 19 15:27:13 <dabbott>	robbat2: he has some forms for me to sign for our back taxes
Jun 19 15:27:35 <robbat2|phone>	Thanks. I need to finish my script changes for the financial reports he wanrs
Jun 19 15:28:07 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - antarus  (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?)
Jun 19 15:28:22 <antarus>	I'm not old ;(
Jun 19 15:28:59 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - dabbott  (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?)
Jun 19 15:29:14 <dabbott>	yes please do :)
Jun 19 15:29:22 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - robbat2 - Treasurer Report
Jun 19 15:30:03 <SwifT>	robbat2|phone: anything in particular we need to cover today?
Jun 19 15:30:04 <robbat2|phone>	It's going to come from the same script changes
Jun 19 15:30:23 <robbat2|phone>	Nothing else to say; raw numbers are very healthy 
Jun 19 15:30:27 <NeddySeagoon>	bank account recovery?
Jun 19 15:30:39 <robbat2|phone>	Hmm, sorry that slipped me
Jun 19 15:31:06 <NeddySeagoon>	np. we seem to have limited use anyway
Jun 19 15:31:10 <robbat2|phone>	Need to finish that Letter and get it in the mail to scotland
Jun 19 15:31:41 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - NeddySeagoon  (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?)
Jun 19 15:31:50 <NeddySeagoon>	sure
Jun 19 15:31:54 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old BUsiness - swift - Gentoo Trademark License Agreement
Jun 19 15:32:03 <SwifT>	the next agreement is online (yay)
Jun 19 15:32:10 <SwifT>	s/next/new/
Jun 19 15:32:17 <SwifT>	https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/foundation/name-logo-guidelines.html
Jun 19 15:32:36 <NeddySeagoon>	there has been some comments on -nfp
Jun 19 15:32:36 <SwifT>	i will go through a number of bugs that might refer to issues with the old one and see if they are still valid
Jun 19 15:33:02 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: if it isabout the snapcraft gentoo logo usage, it's on the agenda in AoB
Jun 19 15:33:30 <NeddySeagoon>	its derived from that, yes
Jun 19 15:33:44 <SwifT>	there were some comments about the name-logo-guidelines in the past on NFP, but those should have been covered (the latest pre-publication edit had most of them tackled, except those that I didn't want to wait out on further)
Jun 19 15:33:47 <robbat2|phone>	Did it include A3li's comments about not distorting logo?
Jun 19 15:33:56 <SwifT>	yes
Jun 19 15:34:03 <SwifT>	3We will not approve any variations of the Gentoo logo that change the aspect ratio or otherwise distort the shape."
Jun 19 15:34:14 <robbat2|phone>	+1
Jun 19 15:35:20 <SwifT>	if nothing else, i'll move to the next topic
Jun 19 15:35:45 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Old Business - Bugs
Jun 19 15:35:55 <SwifT>	anyone who wants to tackle a particular bug today in the meeting?
Jun 19 15:36:10 <NeddySeagoon>	I'm good
Jun 19 15:36:16 <antarus>	no thanks
Jun 19 15:36:40 <SwifT>	ok, Next Topic: New Business - Approved Vendor Requests - FreeWear
Jun 19 15:36:42 <SwifT>	see also https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584594
Jun 19 15:38:04 <robbat2|phone>	I wanted someone else to eyeball their logos for distortion, but their plan was +1 otherwise 
Jun 19 15:38:28 <SwifT>	they're very open in what they do and how they wish to persue things
Jun 19 15:38:46 <SwifT>	I'm moving to accept/approve this
Jun 19 15:39:42 <dabbott>	fine here, robbat2 once some one is approved, who adds there name to the approved list on g.org
Jun 19 15:40:05 <antarus>	SwifT: is that a motion to accept then?
Jun 19 15:40:09 <SwifT>	(baring any subtleties about where and how their logo is put on our site - be it on https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/sponsors/ or elsewhere)
Jun 19 15:40:11 <NeddySeagoon>	approved provided the logo/text is OK.
Jun 19 15:40:17 <antarus>	aye for approval
Jun 19 15:40:20 <SwifT>	antarus: ah, motion
Jun 19 15:40:26 <SwifT>	antarus: missed an English word then ;)
Jun 19 15:40:33 <SwifT>	antarus: yes, motion to accept
Jun 19 15:40:53 <NeddySeagoon>	approved provided the logo/text is OK.
Jun 19 15:41:08 <SwifT>	same here
Jun 19 15:41:09 <dabbott>	aye
Jun 19 15:41:11 <antarus>	aye
Jun 19 15:41:11 <robbat2|phone>	Aye pending confirmation
Jun 19 15:41:35 <SwifT>	Next Topic: New Business - Funding Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to hext topic?)
Jun 19 15:41:43 <NeddySeagoon>	yep
Jun 19 15:41:59 <SwifT>	Next Topic: New Business - Sponsorship Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to next topic?)
Jun 19 15:42:06 <NeddySeagoon>	yep
Jun 19 15:42:16 <SwifT>	(FYI: just type in a ! or so if you have something to say and are afraid that I move too quickly ;)
Jun 19 15:42:28 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: I dn't usually ask
Jun 19 15:42:28 <SwifT>	Next Topic: New Business - Advertising Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to next topic?)
Jun 19 15:42:47 <NeddySeagoon>	yep
Jun 19 15:42:54 <SwifT>	Next Topic: New Business - Membership Applications
Jun 19 15:43:01 <SwifT>	we have three gentoo developers on the roll
Jun 19 15:43:16 <SwifT>	motion to accept them all three in one vote
Jun 19 15:43:22 <NeddySeagoon>	we voted them in on the alias
Jun 19 15:43:33 <robbat2|phone>	Include names here for the record 
Jun 19 15:43:52 <SwifT>	Sam Jorna (wreath), Alfredo Tupone (tupone) and Amy Winsten (amynka)
Jun 19 15:43:58 <SwifT>	AMy Winston that is
Jun 19 15:44:09 <dabbott>	ok added to members list
Jun 19 15:44:13 <NeddySeagoon>	welcome all three
Jun 19 15:44:22 <SwifT>	indeed, welcome all
Jun 19 15:44:31 <antarus>	hello!
Jun 19 15:44:43 <NeddySeagoon>	in time to take part in th election
Jun 19 15:44:56 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Any other Business - snapcraft Gentoo logo usage
Jun 19 15:45:02 <SwifT>	https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/df0cbb5102025473bc2f8c9f7f0beed0
Jun 19 15:45:08 <SwifT>	(and subsequent)
Jun 19 15:45:52 <SwifT>	personally, I think that the logo is part of the "service identification". It's not like it looks like an official Gentoo project to me
Jun 19 15:45:57 *	ChanServ gives voice to fuzzyray
Jun 19 15:46:10 <NeddySeagoon>	lets take this to the alias after -nfp has been quiet for a day or two
Jun 19 15:46:29 <robbat2|phone>	I don't see the logo at all on the mobile version of site
Jun 19 15:46:50 <NeddySeagoon>	it couldappear to be an offcial overlay
Jun 19 15:47:28 <NeddySeagoon>	the logo links to the download not gentoo.oorg
Jun 19 15:47:34 <SwifT>	well, even overlays are allowed to use the gentoo logo.
Jun 19 15:47:48 <SwifT>	I do agree that there should be a link to gentoo.org, which could be very well as part of the next about the ebuilds
Jun 19 15:48:46 <SwifT>	if you want, we can discuss further on the trustees@g.o alias to iron things out
Jun 19 15:48:46 <NeddySeagoon>	lets build on what comes out of -nfp
Jun 19 15:49:26 <NeddySeagoon>	there are several issues there
Jun 19 15:50:04 <NeddySeagoon>	we won't solve everything here and now
Jun 19 15:50:32 <SwifT>	indeed. let's work things out further outside the meeting and put this back on the agenda for next time then?
Jun 19 15:50:37 <robbat2|phone>	Agreed 
Jun 19 15:50:40 <antarus>	aye
Jun 19 15:50:41 <NeddySeagoon>	yes
Jun 19 15:50:44 <dabbott>	I have one AoB
Jun 19 15:50:57 <SwifT>	Next Topic: dabbot's AoB ;-)
Jun 19 15:51:47 <dabbott>	I updated the store with my limited skills, it does use some css and images from g.org  http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo
Jun 19 15:52:58 <dabbott>	thats it
Jun 19 15:53:02 <SwifT>	I wouldn't dare to comment on it, my UI skills are of a 2yo
Jun 19 15:53:37 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Cleanup - Date of Next meeting
Jun 19 15:53:40 <antarus>	seems fine
Jun 19 15:53:43 <antarus>	thanks dabbott
Jun 19 15:53:46 <SwifT>	it's currently marked as 17 July 19 UTC
Jun 19 15:54:00 <SwifT>	that is, July 17th, 2016 at 19:00h UTC
Jun 19 15:54:05 <NeddySeagoon>	wfm
Jun 19 15:54:08 <dabbott>	fine here
Jun 19 15:54:09 <antarus>	wfm
Jun 19 15:54:26 <SwifT>	I should make it, but I leave for holidays the day after early so I won't put my hands in the fire for it
Jun 19 15:54:27 <robbat2|phone>	It's a maybe for me, might be on a plane 
Jun 19 15:54:47 <robbat2|phone>	But the other Sundays in july are all booked 
Jun 19 15:55:11 <SwifT>	ok, let's settle for the agreed upon date then, we should have a quorum 
Jun 19 15:55:22 <SwifT>	Next Topic: Open Floor
Jun 19 15:55:26 <NeddySeagoon>	lets go for it.
Jun 19 15:55:49 <dabbott>	I will send out the email to the new members, update the motion page and post the log
Jun 19 15:56:02 <SwifT>	dabbott: thanks!
Jun 19 15:56:19 <NeddySeagoon>	I'll fix the channel acl
Jun 19 15:56:44 <SwifT>	nothing else for open floor (closing meeting in 10, 9, ...) ?
Jun 19 15:57:07 *	SwifT bangs NeddySeagoon's gavel to close the meeting
Jun 19 15:57:12 <NeddySeagoon>	thank you team
Jun 19 15:57:17 <antarus>	happy sunday yall
Jun 19 15:57:20 <SwifT>	thank you all for today's meeting (and the work you're all putting in Gentoo ;)
Jun 19 15:57:36 *	SwifT sends the gavel to NeddySeagoon again