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\summary{2007}{4}{12}
+Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{85c578debc4821504803755cd6756fb3}
+
\agendaitem{Code of Conduct}
-\index{Code of Conduct}
+\index{Code of Conduct}\index{project!proctors}
-amne has been doing a good job putting the group together.
-Ask proctors to address these two issues for next meeting:
+\dev{amne} has been doing a good job putting the initial group of proctors
+together. We ask the proctors to address these two issues for next meeting:
\begin{itemize}
\item
- add a "mission" statement
+ add a "mission" statement, and
\item
- fix wording to have a positive spin
+ fix the wording to have a positive spin.
\end{itemize}
-\agendaitem{Sync Social Contract with Gentoo Foundation (external entities)}
-\index{social contract}\index{trustees}\index{foundation!trustees}
-
-trustees will review the statement to clarify things and then
- we'll look again at syncing
-
+\agendaitem{Splitting gentoo-dev mailing lists}
+\index{mailing list!gentoo-dev}\index{project!proctors}
+\index{mailing list!gentoo-dev-announce}
-\agendaitem{Documentation for mail servers}
+There was no real favorable backing for this idea. People don't like the -dev
+mailing list because of the crap; splitting the lists will just move the crap
+elsewhere, not really solving anything.
-They are supposed to be finished in terms of content.
-Wolf will look at getting them actually committed.
+Let the proctors do their thing, and if need be, review this again.
\agendaitem{PMS}
\index{PMS}
-Current status looks good in getting issues resolved.
-Should be up and running on Gentoo infra by next meeting.
-Let the devs sort out the todo as the current work flow seems
-to be getting things done finally
-
-
-\agendaitem{Splitting gentoo-dev mailing lists}
-\index{mailing list!gentoo-dev}\index{project!proctors}
-
-no real favorable backing for this
+The current status looks good in getting open bugs resolved. It should be up and
+running as git repository on Gentoo infrastructure by the next meeting.\footnote{Some
+discussion arose about getting \dev{ciaranm} as non-developer commit access.}
+Let the developers sort out the todo list as the current workflow seems
+to be getting things done finally.
-people dont like -dev because of the crap, splitting the lists
- will just move the crap else where, not really solving anything
+\agendaitem{Surveys}
+\index{surveys}
-let proctors do their thing and if need be, review this again
+\dev{robbat2} will look at getting user / developer surveys in place after the
+release of 2007.0. We should probably try and take fresh surveys after each
+bi-annual release from now on to see if we are meeting many of users' desires.
\agendaitem{Limiting of council powers}
+\index{council!limiting powers}
-There doesnt seem to be real backing for this from dev community or
- the council itself
-
-If a majority of developers are truly upset/disturbed by a
- council decision, it should show easily
-
-If you dont like a council member, dont vote for them next time
+There doesnt seem to be real backing for this from dev community or the council
+itself. If a majority of developers are truly upset / disturbed by a council
+decision, it should show easily. If you dont like a council member, dont vote
+for them next time.
\agendaitem{Moving gentoo-core to public archives}
-\index{mailing list!gentoo-core}
+\index{mailing list!gentoo-core}\index{mailing list!gentoo-dev}
-Many people dislike this moving forward
+Many people dislike this moving forward. It is not going to happen at this time.
+We should motivate people to use -dev over -core for most things.\footnote{The
+official summary also contains ``Look into getting a dev-only archive finally.'',
+however, there was no agreement on this in the log --- people see it as a potential
+leak.}
-Use -dev over -core for most things
-Not going to happen at this time
-Look into getting a dev-only archive finally
+\agendaitem{New metastructure proposal}
+This doesn't seem to address any of the problems it proposes to address.\footnote{The
+topic likely refers to the \agoref{gentoo-dev}{69368b0ef5e30bdfe268a92338f5196e}.}
-\agendaitem{Surveys}
-\index{surveys}
+A large majority of developers and users prefer the single tree development style
+that Gentoo has versus many smaller trees.
-robbat2 will look at getting user/dev surveys in place after the
- release of 2007.0
-probably try and take fresh surveys after each bi-annual release
-from now on to see if we're meeting many of users' desires
+\agendaitem{Sync Social Contract with Gentoo Foundation (external entities)}
+\index{social contract}\index{trustees}\index{foundation!trustees}
+
+The trustees will review the statement to clarify things and then
+we'll look again at syncing.\footnote{No, the log is not much clearer.}
-\agendaitem{New metastructure proposal}
-Doesnt seem to address any of the problems it proposes to
+\agendaitem{Documentation for the mail servers}
-A large majority of developers and users prefer the single tree
- development style that Gentoo has versus many smaller trees
+The documentation is supposed to be finished in terms of content.
+\dev{wolf31o2} will look at getting it actually committed.