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Summary of the council meeting 10/Dec/2017
Agenda announcement: [1]
Roll call
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Present: dilfridge, k_f, mgorny, mrueg (proxy for tamiko), slyfox,
ulm, williamh
Absent: -
Lack of enough package maintainers [2]
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While it is clear that there is a lack of package maintainers, the
solution for that problem is not clear. In a corresponding
brainstorming the following topics were touched (without any decisions
or votes):
* Some sort of recruitment drive could be done, for example starting
at FOSDEM.
* Presence at conferences and in the social media is important.
* drobbins suggested that Funtoo people could provide support that is
proxied into Gentoo.
* There's no significant recruiter backlog; recruiting is going quite
smoothly for competent candidates
* Making visible which packages need help and which of those are
critical is important. This touches on the question what "critical"
precisely means, and in turn on gentoostats-like usage statistics
collection.
* Should maintainer-needed packages ever become stable?
Update of GLEP 42 [3,4]
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The linked changes [4] to GLEP 42 (mainly dropping the requirement of
detached OpenPGP signatures) were approved by unanimous vote.
Final review of GLEP 74 [5,6]
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GLEP 74 was approved by unanimous vote.
Restricting gentoo-dev/-project posting [7]
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A lengthy discussion on moderating of or restricting posting to the
gentoo-dev and gentoo-project mailing lists took place. This also
touched how topics should be distributed across the lists and whether
an additional mailing list would be useful.
Vote: "Do we want a public mailing list with posting restricted to
Gentoo developers (+ voiced contributors)?"
- 2 no votes, 3 yes votes, 2 votes "yes if that list is gentoo-dev"
Vote: "Do we want a topic split, i.e., technical versus
organizational, similar as now between gentoo-dev and gentoo-project
mailing list?"
- 5 yes, 2 abstain
Vote: "Shall official business (eg. council-relevant things) take
place on non-restricted lists?"
- 2 yes, 4 no, 1 abstain
Vote: "Shall all official business take place on restricted lists?"
- 4 no, 3 yes
Vote: "We restrict -dev and keep -project open; council discussions go
to -project for now."
- 6 yes, 1 no
After announcement and a grace period of 1-2 weeks, posting to the
gentoo-dev mailing list will be restricted to
* @gentoo.org e-mail holders (i.e., Gentoo developers)
* and whitelisted further contributors.
Maintaining the whitelist will be done in a similar fashion as the
Bugzilla bugedit group is handled now, with one vouching developer
required.
Open bugs with council participation
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Bug 637274 ("Missing summaries for 20170514 and 20170611 council
meetings", [8]):
This is work in progress.
Bug 637328 ("GLEP 14 needs to be updated", [9]):
k_f will follow this up with the security team.
Bug 635344 ("[TRACKER] manifest-hashes replacement", [10]):
This is well underway and can be closed or reassigned.
Open floor
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* The council agrees that kicking and moderation should be restricted
to the meeting chair for the duration of a council meeting.
[ 1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/530b8878cba3973f40b7ea52720056fc
[ 2] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/4771bc564060b7ab1f64d5c094105493
[ 3] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6f070b64892d2e351bd51b2ffa1dc64e
[ 4] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/glep.git/log/?h=glep42-update
[ 5] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/7d189934e371842fc799ba1eead3d01f
[ 6] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0074.html
[ 7] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6e7cc13cd850be7dbd86376d3a197a16
[ 8] https://bugs.gentoo.org/637274
[ 9] https://bugs.gentoo.org/637328
[10] https://bugs.gentoo.org/635344
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