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diff --git a/2010/20100221_trustees_meeting_log.txt b/2010/20100221_trustees_meeting_log.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..700b8d6 --- /dev/null +++ b/2010/20100221_trustees_meeting_log.txt @@ -0,0 +1,388 @@ +Feb 21 14:00:01 * NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel and calls the meeting to order +Feb 21 14:00:09 <NeddySeagoon> Roll call +Feb 21 14:00:44 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, quantumsummers|a tsunam dabbott +Feb 21 14:00:52 <quantumsummers|a> present +Feb 21 14:01:04 <dabbott> here, but may get a phone call that I must take +Feb 21 14:01:11 * quantumsummers|a wasn't late afterall +Feb 21 14:01:17 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ok +Feb 21 14:01:41 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, tsunam ? +Feb 21 14:01:55 <NeddySeagoon> we will give them a few minutes +Feb 21 14:02:00 <quantumsummers|a> ok +Feb 21 14:02:12 <NeddySeagoon> who is loggining ? +Feb 21 14:02:32 <robbat2> hi +Feb 21 14:02:34 <NeddySeagoon> It looks like I am +Feb 21 14:02:38 <robbat2> logging as usual too +Feb 21 14:02:41 <dabbott> I am also +Feb 21 14:02:50 <NeddySeagoon> We have 4, lets start +Feb 21 14:03:27 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 3 Old Business ... we will come back to tsunams stuff +Feb 21 14:03:55 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers SFLC Update and CPA quotes +Feb 21 14:04:17 <quantumsummers|a> alright +Feb 21 14:05:05 <quantumsummers|a> SFLC, I will contact them on Monday regarding the new fun we have discovered. Further, I have started requesting letters of support from a broad range of people & orgs. +Feb 21 14:05:28 <quantumsummers|a> I would like to put up a news item with a request for letters of support as well +Feb 21 14:06:04 <NeddySeagoon> Sure ... do we need a vote on that ? +Feb 21 14:06:05 <quantumsummers|a> I still have work to do on the budget, & would like some input from all of you. Esp. regarding infra needs +Feb 21 14:06:21 <robbat2> +1 on putting up an actual request +Feb 21 14:06:21 <quantumsummers|a> sure, can't hurt +Feb 21 14:06:45 <quantumsummers|a> Motion: News item requesting letters of support for our 501c3 app +Feb 21 14:06:51 <robbat2> aye +Feb 21 14:06:54 <NeddySeagoon> aye +Feb 21 14:07:00 <dabbott> yes +Feb 21 14:07:05 <quantumsummers|a> aye +Feb 21 14:07:06 <quantumsummers|a> thanks +Feb 21 14:07:18 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, do letters of support carry any weight with the IRS ? +Feb 21 14:07:24 <quantumsummers|a> I will write it up tomorrow & email a draft to the alias for review +Feb 21 14:07:51 <NeddySeagoon> ok +Feb 21 14:07:54 <quantumsummers|a> NeddySeagoon: yes. I am seeking a broad range, from individuals, businesses and non-profilts like universities +Feb 21 14:08:11 <NeddySeagoon> OK. Understood +Feb 21 14:08:13 <quantumsummers|a> so we have MIT on board, and D'Youvelle College +Feb 21 14:08:32 <quantumsummers|a> there are some others that I have spoken with as well from the business sector +Feb 21 14:08:40 <quantumsummers|a> I plan on asking some of our sponsors as well +Feb 21 14:08:42 <NeddySeagoon> Sounds like a good thing to do then +Feb 21 14:08:44 <quantumsummers|a> Asking OSL too +Feb 21 14:08:45 <robbat2> i've got an status report related to that later, where that news item I foresee as helping a lot +Feb 21 14:09:16 <quantumsummers|a> excellent +Feb 21 14:10:01 <quantumsummers|a> re: CPA, I have spoken with both parties, and been told that since it is tax time now, we have a bit longer to wait as everyone is quite busy. +Feb 21 14:10:36 <quantumsummers|a> However, I will keep up with both parties on a weekly basis to ascertain progress +Feb 21 14:10:59 <NeddySeagoon> OK. Does that mean its our tax time now too or are we too small +Feb 21 14:11:00 <quantumsummers|a> There is no real rush for us, so I think this is acceptable +Feb 21 14:11:18 <quantumsummers|a> we did not make enough $$ last year to worry about this +Feb 21 14:11:33 <NeddySeagoon> We need to fix that then +Feb 21 14:11:35 <quantumsummers|a> Regardless, we can file an extension. +Feb 21 14:11:42 <quantumsummers|a> If we need to +Feb 21 14:11:56 <NeddySeagoon> making the $$$ I mean :) +Feb 21 14:12:02 <NeddySeagoon> any more quantumsummers|a ? +Feb 21 14:12:09 <quantumsummers|a> we have 60 days to figure this out. I will take this up in conversation next week +Feb 21 14:12:16 <NeddySeagoon> ok +Feb 21 14:12:27 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, rotating sidebar +Feb 21 14:12:30 <quantumsummers|a> no, nothing more, save to say I agree that we need to raise more moiney +Feb 21 14:13:24 <robbat2> i've got a local test copy that i've been populating/testing, but the largest surprise to me +Feb 21 14:13:34 <robbat2> has been that our other sponsors that aren't on the sidebar +Feb 21 14:13:39 <robbat2> that i've approached to get added +Feb 21 14:13:56 <robbat2> the overwhelming reaction has been one of indifference or no response at all +Feb 21 14:14:21 <NeddySeagoon> Hmm. I guess they think there is no advantage in being there +Feb 21 14:14:56 <robbat2> of 7 I approached, only 2 want in +Feb 21 14:15:16 <quantumsummers|a> in that case I think we just need to give notice of what we are doing & put them all in there. +Feb 21 14:15:18 <robbat2> and one of those two, while i've asked for a logo image repeatedly, there's been nothing +Feb 21 14:15:22 <NeddySeagoon> Times are hard, advertising budgets are being cut +Feb 21 14:15:41 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, agreed +Feb 21 14:15:44 <robbat2> advertising budgets being cut should mean they are more willing to get exposure, not less +Feb 21 14:16:05 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, you would think so +Feb 21 14:16:06 <quantumsummers|a> robbat2: can you provide a list of who you contactes? +Feb 21 14:16:10 <quantumsummers|a> *contacted +Feb 21 14:16:18 <robbat2> yup, I can assemble a list and send to the alias +Feb 21 14:16:32 <quantumsummers|a> thanks] +Feb 21 14:16:37 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, when will the rotating sidebar be ready to go live ? +Feb 21 14:16:46 <quantumsummers|a> I will put that into the donor management thing +Feb 21 14:17:12 <robbat2> unless RL issues catch me, i'm hoping for within the next 3 weeks +Feb 21 14:17:19 <robbat2> but i've got a number of other Gentoo things going on too +Feb 21 14:17:32 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, before our next meeting then ? +Feb 21 14:17:33 <robbat2> hardware, bugzilla3, new mirror tool etc :-) +Feb 21 14:17:49 <quantumsummers|a> robbat2: I am happy to assist, I do make a business of this exact sort of deployment +Feb 21 14:17:50 <dabbott> g-cpan :) +Feb 21 14:18:10 <robbat2> mysql 5.1 is out the way now, so that's one thing done +Feb 21 14:18:17 <quantumsummers|a> nice work on that +Feb 21 14:18:56 <robbat2> anyway, in how that ties into quantumsummers's request for support letters +Feb 21 14:19:04 <NeddySeagoon> lets leave the target as the date of our March meeting - we will discuss it then anyway +Feb 21 14:19:13 <robbat2> is that i've approached a few other orgs I've interacted with, and there is also indifference there +Feb 21 14:19:27 <dabbott> robbat2, that is strange +Feb 21 14:19:30 <robbat2> so I want to make the request more formal +Feb 21 14:19:55 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, sounds good +Feb 21 14:20:06 <quantumsummers|a> Ok. great. I am willing to contact these people personally +Feb 21 14:20:18 <robbat2> that's all from me +Feb 21 14:20:20 <quantumsummers|a> via phone perhaps once we have the news item up +Feb 21 14:20:29 <NeddySeagoon> ok +Feb 21 14:20:51 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott Conference Funding Form +Feb 21 14:21:30 <dabbott> please review , just a form to add to the bug report +Feb 21 14:21:50 <quantumsummers|a> looks good to me +Feb 21 14:21:59 <robbat2> can we fix the spelling of dev names ;-)? +Feb 21 14:22:16 <robbat2> and have that one as the example, with an actual blank one for devs to fill +Feb 21 14:22:20 <quantumsummers|a> lol, dabbott, you often call robbat2 rabbat +Feb 21 14:22:56 <dabbott> ok will fix +Feb 21 14:23:02 <NeddySeagoon> heh. I've nothing to add to the above. +Feb 21 14:23:08 <quantumsummers|a> Would it be appropriate to request that the participants write something up after the event for us to post? +Feb 21 14:23:27 <quantumsummers|a> perhaps the actual requester should be charged with the responsibility +Feb 21 14:23:34 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, good idea - a news item for the front page +Feb 21 14:23:37 <quantumsummers|a> this may assist in PR efforts +Feb 21 14:23:37 <robbat2> i like the sound of that +Feb 21 14:24:01 <quantumsummers|a> request or require>? +Feb 21 14:24:21 <quantumsummers|a> we could make it a condition of the funding +Feb 21 14:24:35 <quantumsummers|a> nothing terribly burdensome, of course +Feb 21 14:24:43 <NeddySeagoon> strongly request - we would not stop funding events because of lcak of a news item and there is no way to enforce it +Feb 21 14:25:09 <quantumsummers|a> could apply a slacker mark possibly +Feb 21 14:25:15 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, isn't that cutting off our nose to spite our face ? +Feb 21 14:25:26 <quantumsummers|a> probably +Feb 21 14:25:40 <dabbott> ok I will add is as a request and send the updated form example and blank form to trustees@ for review +Feb 21 14:25:47 <quantumsummers|a> just thinking it through, I am not advocating for a requirement +Feb 21 14:25:53 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, fix the form and post in in foundation webspace +Feb 21 14:26:02 <dabbott> ok +Feb 21 14:26:05 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, we trust you +Feb 21 14:26:08 <quantumsummers|a> thanks dabbott +Feb 21 14:26:59 <NeddySeagoon> neddyseagoon Donation and Vendor Advertising Policy and Guidelines +Feb 21 14:27:13 <NeddySeagoon> I've added robbat2 comments today +Feb 21 14:27:29 <quantumsummers|a> the char limit is currently 50, not 32 +Feb 21 14:27:38 <quantumsummers|a> though that is trivial to change +Feb 21 14:27:53 <NeddySeagoon> I'll update the doc +Feb 21 14:28:29 <quantumsummers|a> ok, 50 seems more reasonable. They can submit longer but it will be truncated at 50 with a ... following +Feb 21 14:29:20 <NeddySeagoon> 30->50 done +Feb 21 14:29:31 <quantumsummers|a> the algorithm used in determining what is shown is a simple weighted random subset method +Feb 21 14:29:50 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, sould I add that in ? +Feb 21 14:29:51 <quantumsummers|a> err, simple ramdon weighted subset, more properly +Feb 21 14:29:56 <quantumsummers|a> *randome +Feb 21 14:29:59 <quantumsummers|a> wow +Feb 21 14:30:18 <quantumsummers|a> NeddySeagoon: doesn't matter to me, if you wish to do so, then by all means +Feb 21 14:31:00 <quantumsummers|a> the code is publicly available as well on git.overlays.g.o +Feb 21 14:31:09 <quantumsummers|a> proj/gentoo-ads.git +Feb 21 14:32:20 <quantumsummers|a> its also likely that somebody, perhaps me, should style the output a little better +Feb 21 14:32:22 <NeddySeagoon> updated +Feb 21 14:32:43 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need a vote on the policy adoption ? +Feb 21 14:33:10 <NeddySeagoon> Motion to adopt http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/CashSponsorsPolicy_Draft.xml as our policy for large users +Feb 21 14:33:26 <quantumsummers|a> I think we should consider this a first draft. I would really like to run this by the sflc before we set it in stone +Feb 21 14:33:28 <NeddySeagoon> wishing to place ads on gentoo.org +Feb 21 14:33:44 <quantumsummers|a> perhaps a disclainer that we may change this policy +Feb 21 14:33:54 <quantumsummers|a> or refine it over time +Feb 21 14:33:55 <NeddySeagoon> Motion denied +Feb 21 14:34:01 <quantumsummers|a> sorry NeddySeagoon +Feb 21 14:34:27 <quantumsummers|a> Given what other OSS nfps have, I think we need to take more time +Feb 21 14:34:28 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, good idea ... I'll add that. +Feb 21 14:35:56 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda item 4 Open Bugs +Feb 21 14:36:02 <quantumsummers|a> I was looking at PSF (python) I think, they had a nice disclaimer explicitly stating that one could not buy a link, but had to demonstrate use to be considered a supporter. We have something close to that now, but just a thought as explicit is better than implicit +Feb 21 14:36:16 <quantumsummers|a> yes, please cont. +Feb 21 14:36:52 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 284224 +Feb 21 14:36:56 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/284224 "Summer of Code changes in reimbursement"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; NEW; dberkholz@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:36:56 <quantumsummers|a> I am going to call Josh. +Feb 21 14:37:06 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, good plan +Feb 21 14:37:36 <robbat2> esp since this is the second meeting he's missed in a row +Feb 21 14:37:50 <quantumsummers|a> he's jumping on now +Feb 21 14:37:55 <tsunam> that I would be ~_~ +Feb 21 14:38:04 <quantumsummers|a> :D +Feb 21 14:38:15 <tsunam> for some reason thought it was next week =/ +Feb 21 14:38:19 <NeddySeagoon> Denis Healey eyebrows ... +Feb 21 14:38:25 <quantumsummers|a> lets give josh a few mins to read back ok? +Feb 21 14:38:55 <NeddySeagoon> I was here last week, than I read /topic +Feb 21 14:39:02 * quantumsummers|a has to attend to a roasting ham for a sec anyhow :) +Feb 21 14:40:27 <NeddySeagoon> tsunam, we can do the stuff you missed now or slot it in after bugs. Either way, it looks like its your turn +Feb 21 14:42:04 <tsunam> caught up +Feb 21 14:42:20 <tsunam> we've received the first check from Google for the Summer of Code changes +Feb 21 14:42:41 <tsunam> second is still pending but hopefully before the middle of next month we should have those funds as well +Feb 21 14:43:11 <NeddySeagoon> tsunam, thats progress. We will stick with bugs +Feb 21 14:43:25 <tsunam> k +Feb 21 14:43:26 <robbat2> was the first cheque the backdated money or the 2009 money? +Feb 21 14:43:38 <tsunam> 2009 +Feb 21 14:43:43 <robbat2> thanks +Feb 21 14:43:48 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 296492 +Feb 21 14:43:50 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/296492 ""Agenda" links are wrong"; Website www.gentoo.org, Other; NEW; tove@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:44:15 <dabbott> that should be fixed afaik +Feb 21 14:45:01 <NeddySeagoon> can someone close the bug - my normal browser is broken and I can't remember my bugsie passwd +Feb 21 14:45:02 <robbat2> we already said last month to fix it, i just haven't changed all of them yet +Feb 21 14:45:17 <NeddySeagoon> ok, leave the bug open then +Feb 21 14:45:24 <robbat2> we should run a link checker over the foundation space maybe +Feb 21 14:45:46 <NeddySeagoon> that sounds like a good ideA +Feb 21 14:46:02 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 296766 +Feb 21 14:46:03 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/296766 "Corrections to corporation filing needed as of 2009/12/13"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:46:32 <robbat2> last month we said to postpone that till after the election +Feb 21 14:46:45 <NeddySeagoon> if the paperwork is not in the post, it may as well wait until the election is over +Feb 21 14:46:50 <tsunam> as we'd have to file again with the changes if they should change +Feb 21 14:47:43 <NeddySeagoon> yes +Feb 21 14:48:03 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 302508 +Feb 21 14:48:05 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/302508 "Funding Request for SCALE LiveDVD's"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; solar@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:48:45 <robbat2> too late for that one now, but long term we have the new conf funding doc +Feb 21 14:48:53 <robbat2> to hopefully approve them faster +Feb 21 14:49:11 <quantumsummers|a> yes, we can close this bug, perhaps link to the new request form +Feb 21 14:49:19 <NeddySeagoon> yep +Feb 21 14:49:37 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 304853 +Feb 21 14:49:39 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/304853 "Not possible to purchase Larry the cow clothing"; User Relations, User/Developer Issues; NEW; mihel@hotbox.ru:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:50:06 <quantumsummers|a> lets see if anyone has larry graphics +Feb 21 14:50:18 <quantumsummers|a> I do not know of any print quality versions +Feb 21 14:50:34 <NeddySeagoon> ok - there are some on the site but I think they are small +Feb 21 14:50:53 <robbat2> i saw a larger bitmap version on some media somewhere years ago, but I cannot recall where +Feb 21 14:51:07 <robbat2> might have been a bootsplash or desktop bg in the media +Feb 21 14:51:08 <NeddySeagoon> Do we want a competition or a news itesm asking for a graphic for a T-shirt ? +Feb 21 14:51:34 <quantumsummers|a> sounds like a fine idea +Feb 21 14:52:22 <NeddySeagoon> Both then - a news item annoucing the comptition +Feb 21 14:53:12 <dabbott> I can do it it sort of ties into PR anyway +Feb 21 14:53:17 <NeddySeagoon> We have the 10th anaversary stuff to draw on. +Feb 21 14:53:21 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, thanks +Feb 21 14:53:42 <dabbott> beandog has a new larry graphic I saw on his new site +Feb 21 14:54:24 <tsunam> http://znurt.org/ <--talking about the one there? +Feb 21 14:54:25 <NeddySeagoon> the competition will raise awareness, so its good from that point of view +Feb 21 14:54:46 <dabbott> yea thats it +Feb 21 14:55:20 <robbat2> znurt is the saucer +Feb 21 14:55:25 <NeddySeagoon> do we what full cow or just a headshot +Feb 21 14:55:32 <tsunam> yes but znurt is beaming up larry :-P +Feb 21 14:55:43 <tsunam> I tend to like full cow larry +Feb 21 14:55:57 <dabbott> with or without utter +Feb 21 14:56:15 <quantumsummers|a> *udder ;) +Feb 21 14:56:18 <NeddySeagoon> leave it to the competition entries to decide +Feb 21 14:56:38 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 305639 +Feb 21 14:56:40 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/305639 "Reimbursement from infra budget: halcy0n for bender PSUs"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 14:56:59 <robbat2> solar was wondering if dev boxes should be covered in the infra budget or not +Feb 21 14:57:05 <tsunam> I need to send off a check still as halcyon specifically asked for a check +Feb 21 14:57:09 <robbat2> or kept as seperate +Feb 21 14:57:25 <quantumsummers|a> I see no issue with paying for this +Feb 21 14:57:40 <quantumsummers|a> though keeping it out of the official infra budget is fine by me +Feb 21 14:57:41 <NeddySeagoon> Anything we need to maintain should be in the infra budget +Feb 21 14:57:41 <robbat2> yeah, merely which virtual bucket the money counts as from +Feb 21 14:57:49 <tsunam> robbat2: infrastructure maintains all the hardware even the dev boxes so from my perspective it should go under their budget +Feb 21 14:58:02 <robbat2> not all the dev boxes +Feb 21 14:58:13 <robbat2> some of *.dev.g.o are directly housed/owned by devs +Feb 21 14:58:21 <NeddySeagoon> that may mean the infra budget needs to be reviewed +Feb 21 14:59:03 <robbat2> bender just happens to be at OSL +Feb 21 14:59:26 <robbat2> of which, I need to get the photos of our gear at OSL up on a webpage +Feb 21 14:59:38 * armin76 wants pics +Feb 21 14:59:44 <robbat2> as i put labels on the items that are actually owned by the foundation +Feb 21 15:00:08 <robbat2> when I was there a few months ago +Feb 21 15:00:24 <armin76> robbat2: sent me teh pics! +Feb 21 15:00:27 <NeddySeagoon> Any equipment we own or maintain needs to be under the infra budget. Thats everything, routers UPS ... +Feb 21 15:00:29 <armin76> send* +Feb 21 15:00:33 <tsunam> which is very little actually for what we own +Feb 21 15:01:50 <NeddySeagoon> I suppose it includes hardware donated to Gentoo too +Feb 21 15:02:17 <robbat2> maybe rename it to be the Gentoo hardware maintenance budget +Feb 21 15:02:23 <robbat2> rather than explicitly infra +Feb 21 15:02:32 <NeddySeagoon> Sounds like a good idea +Feb 21 15:02:40 <robbat2> does it leave us too open? +Feb 21 15:02:46 <robbat2> that'd be my only concern +Feb 21 15:02:56 <robbat2> but given the low level of requests, i don't think it's too much of a problem +Feb 21 15:03:26 <NeddySeagoon> We can use that as a working title and add a definition when the budge is set, after the election +Feb 21 15:03:59 <NeddySeagoon> !bug 288626 +Feb 21 15:04:01 <willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/288626 "[Gentoo 10 Live DVD] Vendor List"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; ASSI; dabbott@g.o:trustees@g.o +Feb 21 15:04:16 <robbat2> *when the full foundation budget is set, up from the $1k/year that we set in May +Feb 21 15:04:27 <dabbott> just information gathering +Feb 21 15:04:36 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, yes I sit corrected +Feb 21 15:05:01 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, I'm against a printed handbook - it will change too quickly +Feb 21 15:05:25 <dabbott> yes I agree +Feb 21 15:06:30 <NeddySeagoon> tsunam, Your share of agenda item 3 Updating Registration in NM, which I think we covered and OSUOSL Donation +Feb 21 15:06:48 <quantumsummers|a> that OSL donation did go out? +Feb 21 15:07:04 <tsunam> I sent it out last week. hasn't cleared yet +Feb 21 15:07:16 <quantumsummers|a> ok, thanks +Feb 21 15:07:21 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon, what sort order were you using on bugs? we still need to touch bug #305341 (the locked one) +Feb 21 15:07:59 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, I went down all the bugs in the agenda item link +Feb 21 15:08:17 <robbat2> the link just took your local bugzilla sort order +Feb 21 15:08:30 <NeddySeagoon> #305341 was not on the list :( +Feb 21 15:08:34 <robbat2> were you logged in? +Feb 21 15:08:40 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, no +Feb 21 15:08:40 <quantumsummers|a> its on mine :) +Feb 21 15:08:48 <dabbott> thats it +Feb 21 15:09:12 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, I've forgotten my bugie password +Feb 21 15:09:24 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon, use the reset link on the login page +Feb 21 15:09:30 <quantumsummers|a> Motion: Vote to approve proposed infra aquisitions. +Feb 21 15:09:42 <robbat2> *phase 1 of aqusitions +Feb 21 15:09:48 <robbat2> *aquisitions +Feb 21 15:09:48 <dabbott> yes +Feb 21 15:09:51 <robbat2> aye +Feb 21 15:09:56 <tsunam> aye +Feb 21 15:09:58 <quantumsummers|a> Taco sent the email with the info +Feb 21 15:10:00 <quantumsummers|a> aye +Feb 21 15:10:42 <quantumsummers|a> $3435.02 USD +Feb 21 15:10:46 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon, the updated bug has the due diligence in pricing you requested btw +Feb 21 15:12:02 <quantumsummers|a> that is actually $3485.02 USD +Feb 21 15:12:20 <robbat2> addition error? +Feb 21 15:12:43 <quantumsummers|a> the one I was looking at omitted the "Installation Costs" +Feb 21 15:13:03 <NeddySeagoon> Bugsie doesn't like me The token you submitted does not exist, has expired, or has been cancelled +Feb 21 15:13:19 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon, hmm, i'll help you fix after the meeting +Feb 21 15:13:41 <quantumsummers|a> teh request looks good & I think its now approved by majority +Feb 21 15:13:49 <NeddySeagoon> ok, thanks robbat2 +Feb 21 15:13:56 <quantumsummers|a> I shall update the bug. +Feb 21 15:14:06 <quantumsummers|a> tsunam: how soon can we place the orders? +Feb 21 15:14:36 <NeddySeagoon> Is this for the Atoms or everything ? +Feb 21 15:14:40 <tsunam> hopefully next week +Feb 21 15:14:40 <robbat2> atoms +Feb 21 15:14:58 <tsunam> need to see how I'll need to order though +Feb 21 15:14:59 <quantumsummers|a> tsunam: do we have a card yet? +Feb 21 15:15:02 <tsunam> quantumsummers|a: nope +Feb 21 15:15:14 <robbat2> expecting the card in the next week? +Feb 21 15:15:26 <tsunam> expecting to hear back if we get approved or not yes +Feb 21 15:15:29 <dabbott> for the record Motion: Vote to approve proposed infra aquisitionsphase 1 passed. +Feb 21 15:15:38 <quantumsummers|a> dabbott: thanks +Feb 21 15:15:51 <quantumsummers|a> tsunam: I can expedite things I bet +Feb 21 15:16:06 <tsunam> quantumsummers|a: hmm? +Feb 21 15:16:25 <quantumsummers|a> as long as you reimburse me in short order. I can order the items myself +Feb 21 15:16:43 <tsunam> quantumsummers|a: I could do the same as well +Feb 21 15:16:52 <tsunam> which is how I've managed things so far +Feb 21 15:17:04 <quantumsummers|a> I see, its up to you. +Feb 21 15:17:10 <tsunam> thank you though +Feb 21 15:17:17 <quantumsummers|a> my pleasure +Feb 21 15:17:24 <robbat2> ok, I think that's all the bugs. that leaves New Business / {dabbott, Trustees} and items 6-10 +Feb 21 15:17:38 <NeddySeagoon> I guess its easier for tsunam, as hes treasuerer +Feb 21 15:18:21 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 6 New Business +Feb 21 15:18:34 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 5 New Business +Feb 21 15:18:48 <NeddySeagoon> GSoC Back Pay Update tsunam +Feb 21 15:19:15 <tsunam> first check for 2009 received, second for previous years still pending +Feb 21 15:19:37 <tsunam> from donnie the second check was not net+30 but net+60 days +Feb 21 15:19:45 <NeddySeagoon> dabbott, Foundation motions page +Feb 21 15:20:11 <NeddySeagoon> looks good to me +Feb 21 15:20:25 <dabbott> page suggested by robbat2 to keep motions organized +Feb 21 15:20:26 <robbat2> I verified all of 2009 (and added some missing items) +Feb 21 15:20:34 <robbat2> that leaves just 2008 and 2010 to finish +Feb 21 15:21:00 <dabbott> I will add to 2010 as we go on +Feb 21 15:21:08 <NeddySeagoon> I'll have a look at 2008 +Feb 21 15:21:20 <dabbott> 1 motion to add from todays meeting +Feb 21 15:21:25 <quantumsummers|a> 2 +Feb 21 15:21:37 <dabbott> ahh 2 +Feb 21 15:21:47 <quantumsummers|a> letters & funding +Feb 21 15:21:58 <dabbott> ok thanks +Feb 21 15:22:08 <quantumsummers|a> well three, donation policy, but that was denied +Feb 21 15:22:30 <NeddySeagoon> May as well record that +Feb 21 15:23:13 <NeddySeagoon> Trustees stuff. Nothing to discuss until we get to the last bullet Trademark Violation ? Tardix +Feb 21 15:23:33 <quantumsummers|a> my proposal was in the email response +Feb 21 15:24:06 <dabbott> How is the store doing? +Feb 21 15:24:48 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, In addition to your proposal, I think we write to the owner and the hosting company and ask for a takedown. We should also write to sponsors as they may want to take their own action +Feb 21 15:26:03 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, your email was not public - you may want to reproduce the core of it here for the log +Feb 21 15:26:11 <quantumsummers|a> In that case, I say we give them 5 days to comply before we file charges. +Feb 21 15:26:26 <quantumsummers|a> NeddySeagoon: it is not public. Though all the board members can read it +Feb 21 15:26:43 <quantumsummers|a> unless you want me to make it public +Feb 21 15:26:50 <quantumsummers|a> which I am fine with +Feb 21 15:27:16 <robbat2> be sure to trim the text that you quoted if you do +Feb 21 15:27:16 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, well, I think we will have a motion here - that needs to be copen +Feb 21 15:27:19 <NeddySeagoon> open* +Feb 21 15:27:28 <quantumsummers|a> ok. +Feb 21 15:27:45 <NeddySeagoon> Thats why I suggested you put the gist of it here +Feb 21 15:27:46 <robbat2> (or get the author's permission to reproduce that text as well) +Feb 21 15:29:00 <quantumsummers|a> Based on observation of www.tardix.org it infringes Gentoo trademark and copyright. It violates our CC license. It is criminal defamation (malicious slander and/or libel). +Feb 21 15:29:40 <quantumsummers|a> I propose to the board of trustees in today's meeting that we immediately contact our legal representative and initiate proceedings against the apparent owner(s) of this site. +Feb 21 15:29:47 <robbat2> defamation due to their use of text replacements: s/gentoo/Tardix/gi, s/developer/Whore/gi, s/performance/stickers/ etc. +Feb 21 15:29:49 <NeddySeagoon> I would like to go with a takedown notice while we take legal advice +Feb 21 15:29:56 <quantumsummers|a> My reasons for such action coalesce around the idea that if some entity were to do such a thing to my business I would file charges in a court of law immediately due to the obvious malicious intent. +Feb 21 15:30:27 <quantumsummers|a> NeddySeagoon: I agree with you. lets send a letter to the operator & rackspace +Feb 21 15:30:52 <quantumsummers|a> while on Monday I will contact our legal rep regarding next steps +Feb 21 15:30:55 <robbat2> a well-written DMCA request, or a C&D letter? +Feb 21 15:31:13 <NeddySeagoon> Motion ... Send takedown notic and seek legal advice over Tardix.org +Feb 21 15:31:21 * tsunam mentions that robbat2 is no doubt very familar with both +Feb 21 15:31:34 <quantumsummers|a> Well, that's the thing, I want to talk to our lawyers before we do anything +Feb 21 15:31:45 <robbat2> can we please clarify by takedown request do we mean a DMCA request or a C&D? +Feb 21 15:31:49 <robbat2> or a friendly letter first +Feb 21 15:31:53 <quantumsummers|a> we should wait until we are advised +Feb 21 15:32:22 <NeddySeagoon> I mean C&D ... the DMCA does not apply to me so I am not familiar with it +Feb 21 15:32:30 <robbat2> ok, so ask counsel tommorow, and then we send one of those +Feb 21 15:32:42 <quantumsummers|a> ok, sounds good +Feb 21 15:32:50 <quantumsummers|a> I will report back immediately +Feb 21 15:32:56 <NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|a, thanks +Feb 21 15:33:02 <dabbott> ty quantumsummers|a +Feb 21 15:33:03 <NeddySeagoon> Do we need a vote ? +Feb 21 15:33:04 <quantumsummers|a> my pleasure +Feb 21 15:33:11 <quantumsummers|a> lets do it via email +Feb 21 15:33:15 <quantumsummers|a> vote that is +Feb 21 15:33:18 <NeddySeagoon> ok +Feb 21 15:33:20 <quantumsummers|a> sound ok? +Feb 21 15:33:22 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon, DMCA requests are considerably easier to produce, and have less legal backlash in MOST cases +Feb 21 15:33:44 <robbat2> provided you follow their terms correctly. if you screw up a DMCA, the backlash is worse +Feb 21 15:33:45 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2, thanks for the clarifiaction +Feb 21 15:34:14 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda item 6 Membership Applications - none to vote on +Feb 21 15:34:32 <NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 7 Date of Next Meeting - 21th Mar 2010 19:00 UTC +Feb 21 15:34:49 <NeddySeagoon> That works for me +Feb 21 15:34:55 <dabbott> OK here +Feb 21 15:34:56 * quantumsummers|a appologizes, but has to go. In brief, the date for the next meeting is fine by me. Mr. Chandras has been added to the rolls, as you can see here: http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/20100213_members_list.xml +Feb 21 15:35:09 <NeddySeagoon> yep +Feb 21 15:35:17 <tsunam> works for me as well +Feb 21 15:35:25 <tsunam> I'll make sure to add a reminder this time +Feb 21 15:35:27 <quantumsummers|a> I will be available in about 3.5 hours if someone needs me +Feb 21 15:35:32 <robbat2> i think that covers everything +Feb 21 15:35:35 <robbat2> for today +Feb 21 15:35:48 <NeddySeagoon> Any other business ... +Feb 21 15:35:54 <NeddySeagoon> None from me +Feb 21 15:36:01 <robbat2> none here +Feb 21 15:36:03 <dabbott> nope +Feb 21 15:36:09 <NeddySeagoon> tsunam, +Feb 21 15:36:12 <NeddySeagoon> ^^ +Feb 21 15:36:30 <NeddySeagoon> Item 10 Open Floor +Feb 21 15:37:38 * robbat2 listens to the crickets chirp +Feb 21 15:37:53 * NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed |